PGD2, betamethasone valeratel, and hair growth....

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by gutted
    dude you are being brainwashed by mainstream views, that are outdated, you need to think out of the box as to what baldness is.

    renokin did not give you that growth, its most likeley the other thing you were doing.

    im 1000% confident regrowth can be achived on bald scalp, it just takes time and dedciation and anti inflamatories.
    dude, thinking outside the box about baldness doesn't mean I should take a steroid for more than two weeks straight, or dosing once a week for a year, or whatever. i dont know shit about these foams, other than they, for whatever reason, think the company could be held liable if they suggest it be used for more than two weeks.

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by 2020
    what EXACTLY were you taking that period of time when you experienced regrowth?

    Renokin and these foams and shampoos... I used the foams and shampoos on and off as itching came and went. However, I used renokin spray and shampoo for maybe 3-6 months. It was really good results.. until the foams stopped... aka obviously it was the foam (I know this gutted, I was implying that, at the time, I had guessed at an improper causation.. this was well before PGD2 was implicated)

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  • 2020
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    what EXACTLY were you taking that period of time when you experienced regrowth?

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by 2020
    lol yeah so when your hairline goes past a certain number of inches it then goes into "scarring mode"? What if you're destined to be NW4 and stay there for 20 years? Do those follicles in NW1-4 area become scarred after time? how does this make sense. Explain yourself
    this is the question I also thought his view raised

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by gutted
    why are they sketchy?
    they have a proven safety profile and alopecia areata pateints have used it without any ill effects.

    it should be ok.

    i think you should publich this on *** forum for some of those people to experiment with it.
    read up on side effects and the precautions of use for both foams. I know they always put the worst case scenario, but I'm not comfortable starting this tonight... sorry guys. A little more research.

    Gutted, I'm not a member there, but feel free to "publish" my "findings" yourself lol... just properly cite me... academic honesty and all right?

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP



    I honestly vividly remembering that once I had used this stuff as prescribed and my itching and scales went away that I was experiencing better hair, and possibly more hair. This is a pretty strong cortisteroidal-whatever. As I said before, I thought it was renokin, and shrugged off the passing thought that it was the foams and shampoo.....




    instructions say use twice a day, and unlike other steroid foams, it can be used for upwards of two weeks.. however there may be sides after that... but if the sides are hair growth then.... lol
    dude you are being brainwashed by mainstream views, that are outdated, you need to think out of the box as to what baldness is.

    renokin did not give you that growth, its most likeley the other thing you were doing.

    im 1000% confident regrowth can be achived on bald scalp, it just takes time and dedciation and anti inflamatories.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by gutted
    i agree with him that its non scarring up until nw4 AFTER that it begins to turn scarring.
    lol yeah so when your hairline goes past a certain number of inches it then goes into "scarring mode"? What if you're destined to be NW4 and stay there for 20 years? Do those follicles in NW1-4 area become scarred after time? how does this make sense. Explain yourself

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  • 2020
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    I can't find any studies where it says that betamethasone decreases PGD2 however it would make sense as it is anti-inflammatory... idk what to think of this. One bottle is like $25. someone should try it I guess

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
    why do you disagree with him about the scarring?
    i agree with him that its non scarring up until nw4 AFTER that it begins to turn scarring.

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
    interesting..... unfortunately these two foams are kind of sketchy and im hesitant to use them.. especially for a prolonged period. How can I find out a safe way to go about this? My doc would probably not be comfortable giving me information on how to run a trial, for instance, using the foam every every 5 days or something...
    why are they sketchy?
    they have a proven safety profile and alopecia areata pateints have used it without any ill effects.

    it should be ok.

    i think you should publich this on *** forum for some of those people to experiment with it.

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by gutted
    keep dreaming.
    why do you disagree with him about the scarring?

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by gutted
    why not?

    anti inflammatories in general grow hair, its only since the publication of dr cot's study that its being researched by us.

    the side effect of that drug is hypertrichosis - similar to what occured to the patients on benaxoprofen, an anti inflammatory.
    interesting..... unfortunately these two foams are kind of sketchy and im hesitant to use them.. especially for a prolonged period. How can I find out a safe way to go about this? My doc would probably not be comfortable giving me information on how to run a trial, for instance, using the foam every every 5 days or something...




    I honestly vividly remembering that once I had used this stuff as prescribed and my itching and scales went away that I was experiencing better hair, and possibly more hair. This is a pretty strong cortisteroidal-whatever. As I said before, I thought it was renokin, and shrugged off the passing thought that it was the foams and shampoo.....




    instructions say use twice a day, and unlike other steroid foams, it can be used for upwards of two weeks.. however there may be sides after that... but if the sides are hair growth then.... lol

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by 2020
    it doesn't matter where it came from. Androgenic Alopecia is NON-SCARRING that's a fact
    keep dreaming.

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
    are you serious or what!?
    why not?

    anti inflammatories in general grow hair, its only since the publication of dr cot's study that its being researched by us.

    the side effect of that drug is hypertrichosis - similar to what occured to the patients on benaxoprofen, an anti inflammatory.

    you also need to understand its not going to grow hair in a mater of weeks, you need to give consistency and time for it to work.

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  • NeedHairASAP
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    Originally posted by 2020
    it doesn't matter where it came from. Androgenic Alopecia is NON-SCARRING that's a fact
    lol whatever man I'm not arguing with you. the book was sketchy anyway. however, it is a fact that some (all?) minox has this beta-shit in it.


    1. Does finasturide have any affects on the body that are similar to the affects caused by this beta-shit?

    2. does this beta-shit stop PGD2?

    3. what was that ****ing shampoo that I was prescribed!? i wish the doc was open, but will have to wait til tomorrow to find out. I just dug out the two cans of foam that were prescribed with them and this all hit me, after a few google searches of course.


    there is a god and he works in mysterious ways

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