PGD2, betamethasone valeratel, and hair growth....

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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    PGD2, betamethasone valeratel, and hair growth....



    The present study showed that the use of garlic gel significantly added to the therapeutic efficacy of topical betamethasone valerate in alopecia areata and that it can be an effective adjunctive topical therapy for alopecia areata.



    could betamethasone valeratel foam be the answer? it's has the know side-effect of "Excessive hair growth (hypertrichosis)" and can be applied to the scalp.

    or Clobetasol Propionate Foam?
  • clandestine
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2002

    #2
    Mm definitely wouldn't mind me some excessive hair growth

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1408

      #3
      I may have just solved baldness

      apparently our friend minoxidil has betamathsone vertiwhatever in it


      "Another minoxidil lotion additive is betamethasone valerate, a cortisone medication that helps to prevent scalp inflammation. In addition to reducing possible scalp irritation, it may also enhance the hair restoration effect of minoxidil in two ways: first, it helps block the metabolism of testosterone in the cells of the hair follicle where the hormone signal to “stop producing new hairs” takes place. Blocking this signal may keep more hairs growing. Second, betameth- asone valerate helps to disperse the white blood cells that are called up to push the hair shaft out. In doing so, the white blood cells scar the hair follicle, reducing to a degree the follicle’s ability to produce new hairs. By reducing scarring, betamethasone valerate may help keep the hair follicles active for more hair growth cycles. Male pattern baldness is a scarring alopecia, and the betamethasone valerate helps reduce scarring of the hair follicle."



      Sounds like we found out why minox works... and it aint cause of the minox


      if we can confirm that this beta stuff blocks PGD2, then it may be the answer....it's all coming together

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      • 2020
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1513

        #4
        holy shit good find

        we should just start looking for compounds that have "excessive hair growth" as a side effect and do research from there


        EDIT:

        Male pattern baldness is a scarring alopecia,
        huh? no it's not?

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          #5
          Originally posted by 2020
          holy shit good find

          we should just start looking for compounds that have "excessive hair growth" as a side effect and do research from there

          sarcasm? because i think we just cured baldness

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          • NeedHairASAP
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1408

            #6
            Originally posted by 2020
            holy shit good find

            we should just start looking for compounds that have "excessive hair growth" as a side effect and do research from there


            EDIT:



            huh? no it's not?

            I was prescribed in foam form both of the chemicals I mentioned in the opening post, along with a shampoo. I think that I experienced hair growth using them, but had attributed it to the Renokin regiment that I was on... however, nothing ever came of it... but of course....... I had stopped the foams and shampoos eventually and was only using Renokin. Obviously the growth wore off.

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            • 2020
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1513

              #7
              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              sarcasm? because i think we just cured baldness
              no because if we find that this betamethasone stuff blocks PGD2 then this would confirm the theory that PGD2 prevents hair from growing.... remove it and hair starts growing again.

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1408

                #8
                Originally posted by 2020

                huh? no it's not?
                I'll try to find the book that quotes from. if you google the quote it should come up. It's chapter 9 of some hairdoc book or some shit.

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                • NeedHairASAP
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1408

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2020
                  no because if we find that this betamethasone stuff blocks PGD2 then this would confirm the theory that PGD2 prevents hair from growing.... remove it and hair starts growing again.
                  its a confirmed treatment for alopecia areta



                  you're a hacker and know more chemistry/biology than I, please do some research.

                  i'm doin what I can with google

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                  • gutted
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1397

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

                    The present study showed that the use of garlic gel significantly added to the therapeutic efficacy of topical betamethasone valerate in alopecia areata and that it can be an effective adjunctive topical therapy for alopecia areata.



                    could betamethasone valeratel foam be the answer? it's has the know side-effect of "Excessive hair growth (hypertrichosis)" and can be applied to the scalp.

                    or Clobetasol Propionate Foam?
                    get applying this to the temples straight away!!!

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                    • NeedHairASAP
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1408

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gutted
                      get applying this to the temples straight away!!!
                      are you serious or what!?

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1513

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                        I'll try to find the book that quotes from. if you google the quote it should come up. It's chapter 9 of some hairdoc book or some shit.
                        it doesn't matter where it came from. Androgenic Alopecia is NON-SCARRING that's a fact

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                        • NeedHairASAP
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1408

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 2020
                          it doesn't matter where it came from. Androgenic Alopecia is NON-SCARRING that's a fact
                          lol whatever man I'm not arguing with you. the book was sketchy anyway. however, it is a fact that some (all?) minox has this beta-shit in it.


                          1. Does finasturide have any affects on the body that are similar to the affects caused by this beta-shit?

                          2. does this beta-shit stop PGD2?

                          3. what was that ****ing shampoo that I was prescribed!? i wish the doc was open, but will have to wait til tomorrow to find out. I just dug out the two cans of foam that were prescribed with them and this all hit me, after a few google searches of course.


                          there is a god and he works in mysterious ways

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                          • gutted
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1397

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                            are you serious or what!?
                            why not?

                            anti inflammatories in general grow hair, its only since the publication of dr cot's study that its being researched by us.

                            the side effect of that drug is hypertrichosis - similar to what occured to the patients on benaxoprofen, an anti inflammatory.

                            you also need to understand its not going to grow hair in a mater of weeks, you need to give consistency and time for it to work.

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                            • gutted
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1397

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2020
                              it doesn't matter where it came from. Androgenic Alopecia is NON-SCARRING that's a fact
                              keep dreaming.

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