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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2691

    Still a good sign.

    Originally posted by JRQ
    Well, here's the scoop from what I personally found out from a test site-
    It seems that it is still for Phase 2. They now want men with balding in the crown that still have a little amount of hair left. So if you qualify, call them up and check it out. You could get a free HT! Lol.

    I'm pretty disappointed, but still happy to see that they're moving at a relatively fast pace. I apologize for anyone's hopes that I have now dashed. This has definitely made me decide to get a hair transplant until the surgery comes out. I really didn't want to, but oh well....more $$ down the drain lol.
    So if they're testing this on individuals with significantly small amounts of hair (i.e. Norwood 6.5/7), am I to assume their technique has worked well on previous norwoods?

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    • Joker
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 121

      UK, I unfortunately read this the opposite way. They tried it on NW6/7 without much success, and now they want to see if maybe it can still help NW3/4...

      It's ok JRQ, I appreciate all your efforts to get us info. Did they give a timeline when this Phase 2 will end? I feel like now we're going to blow WAY past their deadline of finishing Phase 2 in 2012... :/

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      • Joker
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 121

        Didn't someone in an earlier thread mention that Spencer was going to interview Aderans? Did that fall through? Getting a little scared here since they are still starting new protocols 4 years into P2...

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        • JRQ
          Member
          • May 2012
          • 39

          Originally posted by Joker
          UK, I unfortunately read this the opposite way. They tried it on NW6/7 without much success, and now they want to see if maybe it can still help NW3/4...

          It's ok JRQ, I appreciate all your efforts to get us info. Did they give a timeline when this Phase 2 will end? I feel like now we're going to blow WAY past their deadline of finishing Phase 2 in 2012... :/
          Thanks Joker, I appreciate it. I know specifically (because I didn't qualify) that the protocol prior to this (the one still currently being tested) they called for completely bald in the crown area. So I truly don't understand the purpose of the current protocol they're screening for. They also wanted a full hair line in the front.....so who knows what they're up to at this point. I guess they know they have us by the balls and can fool around with time. Sigh.....

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          • gmonasco
            Inactive
            • Apr 2010
            • 865

            Originally posted by JRQ
            I guess they know they have us by the balls and can fool around with time. Sigh.....
            Huh? In what way could Aderans possibly benefit from delaying getting a hair loss treatment to market? There's no upside, and they'd be risking letting some other company beat them to the punch.

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            • JRQ
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 39

              Originally posted by gmonasco
              Huh? In what way could Aderans possibly benefit from delaying getting a hair loss treatment to market? There's no upside, and they'd be risking letting some other company beat them to the punch.
              More of a mark of frustration than anything else. I try to stay upbeat/positive, but today bummed me out.

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              • NeedHairASAP
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1408

                Originally posted by gmonasco
                Huh? In what way could Aderans possibly benefit from delaying getting a hair loss treatment to market? There's no upside, and they'd be risking letting some other company beat them to the punch.
                si, el es todos en los flujos de efictivo y si mantener la technologia, entonces no se darlos un aumento en su flujos de efectivo....asi, lo haran traen la technologia tan pronto come sea possible

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                • Kiwi
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1087

                  Originally posted by JRQ
                  Thanks Joker, I appreciate it. I know specifically (because I didn't qualify) that the protocol prior to this (the one still currently being tested) they called for completely bald in the crown area. So I truly don't understand the purpose of the current protocol they're screening for. They also wanted a full hair line in the front.....so who knows what they're up to at this point. I guess they know they have us by the balls and can fool around with time. Sigh.....
                  None of us have a clue why. I take it as a positive.

                  My thoughts are that they might be trying people that have had HTs in the front hence the hairline.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    Originally posted by Joker
                    UK, I unfortunately read this the opposite way. They tried it on NW6/7 without much success, and now they want to see if maybe it can still help NW3/4...:/
                    I dont see how that would work - according to the information provided by JRQ, they're still screening for the higher Norwoods at the moment, so how would you know if it worked or not?

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                    • Joker
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 121

                      I thought that JRQ said they went from screening completely bald guys to screening guys who still had hair (albeit thin hair) on their crown. That seemed to me like they were giving up on helping completely bald people and moving towards thinning hair. Did I misunderstand?

                      Also, we should keep in mind that different locations might be screening for different things. I remember a trialist on another forum said he was using Rogaine in conjunction with the trial, and we later learned that only 1 cohort used Rogaine.

                      Either way, the speculation is endless and extremely frustrating. I was so happy when Aderans mentioned (on three different press releases since 2011) that Phase 2 would end in 2012. Now I can't help but be disappointed.

                      I really hope this isn't a harbinger of bad things to come. :/

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                      • Alf
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 91

                        OK, how does this thing work, do they have to finish the new phase 2 before they can start the phase 3 or is it enough that the old phase 2 finishes and then run phase 3 parallel to the new phase 2.

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                        • baldybald
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 243

                          for sure we need to make more phone calls, or mr spencer please an interveiw with aderans!!

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                          • Person
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 104

                            Aderans will not realistically be available to the public until mid 2017. So why the does anyone even care?

                            The only real hope is Histogen (2016 in Asia) or Allergan's Bimatoprost for scalp (2015).

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                            • Joker
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 121

                              I think Alf zeroed in on the most important question.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by Person
                                Aderans will not realistically be available to the public until mid 2017. So why the does anyone even care?
                                Is 2017 your prediction or do you know this as fact?

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