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  • Desmond84
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 987

    Originally posted by Joker
    Hey guys,

    I called another Aderans facility (in OH) to get more information.

    The screener on the phone didn't know too much specific information, but said "this is the last phase" and "we only do trials for the last phase before it hits the market, so this treatment has been tested before."

    They are looking for people who are completely bald in the crown.

    Once again, this is imperfect information so take it with a grain of salt. Hopefully these sites truly are in Phase 3. There seem to be a few of them now saying the same things, so I guess that's better than nothing. We'll just have to wait for official word from Aderans before we can get excited.
    Hey Joker,

    I just ran a search through clinicaltrials.gov and found this study that is still ongoing for Aderans Ji Gami CN version. Ohio is listed as a study site and it is a PHASE II study. Estimated completion date is April 2013.

    Let's hope we see some AWESOME results from this man! Life will be sweet

    Here's the link to the study:

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    • Joker
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 121

      Hey Desmond, thanks for the link. I've already seen those studies posted, but I'm not 100% certain that they are the same ones which are currently recruiting.

      I say this for a few reasons:

      1) Me and Hellouser called sites in FL and AZ and were told they were in Phase 3. They also said that other sites were still in Phase 2. There seems to be some variability among the locations.
      2) The site I contacted in OH that said they were in the final stage before commercialization was in Cincinnati, not the one in Akron listed on the clinical trials page.
      3) The clinical trials page still says that certain sites haven't even started recruiting yet. If that's true, there is no way it will finish in February 2013. I feel as though (and certainly hope) the clinical trials site is not always frequently updated.
      4) If they HAVE started recruiting for Phase 3, this would match perfectly with the timeline they released in June 2010 and re-released in September 2011.

      I'm not trying to spread false hope or anything, it's just that the facts we have are inconsistent and it's difficult to tell if Aderans is strictly in Phase 2 or if they are silently making a move to Phase 3. I really wish we'd have some form of conclusive evidence like a press release or a listing on clinicaltrials.gov. Let's just continue to keep our fingers crossed until we know for sure!

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      • Joker
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 121

        Another thing I can't reconcile is the press release from March 2012 that said they finished recruiting for a Phase 2 trial, and yet there was no corresponding trial on clinicaltrials.gov around that time.

        It seems to me like the type of trials Aderans is doing are very complicated and fluid, and they don't really "fit" into the classifications on clinicaltrials.gov.

        Whatever, maybe I'm just being optimistic. I really have no idea what's going on with this company...

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        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          Originally posted by Joker
          Hey Desmond, thanks for the link. I've already seen those studies posted, but I'm not 100% certain that they are the same ones which are currently recruiting.

          I say this for a few reasons:

          1) Me and Hellouser called sites in FL and AZ and were told they were in Phase 3. They also said that other sites were still in Phase 2. There seems to be some variability among the locations.
          2) The site I contacted in OH that said they were in the final stage before commercialization was in Cincinnati, not the one in Akron listed on the clinical trials page.
          3) The clinical trials page still says that certain sites haven't even started recruiting yet. If that's true, there is no way it will finish in February 2013. I feel as though (and certainly hope) the clinical trials site is not always frequently updated.
          4) If they HAVE started recruiting for Phase 3, this would match perfectly with the timeline they released in June 2010 and re-released in September 2011.

          I'm not trying to spread false hope or anything, it's just that the facts we have are inconsistent and it's difficult to tell if Aderans is strictly in Phase 2 or if they are silently making a move to Phase 3. I really wish we'd have some form of conclusive evidence like a press release or a listing on clinicaltrials.gov. Let's just continue to keep our fingers crossed until we know for sure!
          More people should make a phone call to those sites to verify it.

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          • 2020
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1513

            There is no way this would be their last trial...

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            • yeahyeahyeah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1776

              Originally posted by 2020
              There is no way this would be their last trial...
              Why are you so ****ing negative.

              You have nothing positive to say about ANYTHING.

              Really ****ing annoying.

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              • Desmond84
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 987

                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                Why are you so ****ing negative.

                You have nothing positive to say about ANYTHING.

                Really ****ing annoying.
                LMAO...you know I kind of like 2020. He reminds me of Marvin (the Robot) in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

                So grime and funny at the same time. I dare you guys to watch this and not see the resemblance! LOL

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                • Alf
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 91

                  Anyone knows how many consultations you have to take if you participate?

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                  • Alf
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 91

                    Originally posted by Joker
                    1) Me and Hellouser called sites in FL and AZ and were told they were in Phase 3.
                    I don't want to be negative, but i'm not so sure if the people you spoke with gave the correct information. Just think of inside traiding if they are just giving such information to only those who asks. I mean starting phase 3 must have an impact on the stock of aderans?

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      Originally posted by Alf
                      I don't want to be negative, but i'm not so sure if the people you spoke with gave the correct information. Just think of inside traiding if they are just giving such information to only those who asks. I mean starting phase 3 must have an impact on the stock of aderans?
                      How is this insider trading when they are actually in phase 3 in x place?

                      Only because they haven't made an official news announcement does not make it insider trading. Because afterall they are in the process of recruiting participants. For all they know he could be a potential one.

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                      • JJacobs152
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 293

                        yeahyeahyeah, what's the latest news and development with Aderans?

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                        • yeahyeahyeah
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1776

                          Originally posted by JJacobs152
                          yeahyeahyeah, what's the latest news and development with Aderans?
                          They are in phase 2.

                          Not much else has been officially released, aside from them getting 100m funding.

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                          • Joker
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 121

                            Real quick, just to correct one of the most common pieces of misinformation posted on these forums...

                            Aderans never received 100 million dollars of funding. The article says they invested a current total of 100 million dollars developing their technology (i.e. from 2002 to 2012, Aderans spent 100 million dollars). This is not the same thing as an investment round.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by Joker
                              Real quick, just to correct one of the most common pieces of misinformation posted on these forums...

                              Aderans never received 100 million dollars of funding. The article says they invested a current total of 100 million dollars developing their technology (i.e. from 2002 to 2012, Aderans spent 100 million dollars). This is not the same thing as an investment round.
                              100 million dollars in spending and buying out bosley, hair club, etc looks like theyre onto something. They should be finishing up all their Phase II trials by february 2013 and Phase III results should be done about a year after.

                              Lets hope they dont hit any roadblocks

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                              • yeahyeahyeah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1776

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                100 million dollars in spending and buying out bosley, hair club, etc looks like theyre onto something. They should be finishing up all their Phase II trials by february 2013 and Phase III results should be done about a year after.

                                Lets hope they dont hit any roadblocks
                                The only problem is , we all will need to get HTs from bosley if this comes to fruitation.

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