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  • Kiwi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1087

    Originally posted by Person
    In my personal opinion, Aderans is a waste of time. I definitely would not consider waiting around on them. They are FAR from finished. Realistically 2018. I used to research them then I realized how much more they have to do and how shady of a company aderans is. Its a lot of money raising and little progress. Seems like a money making scheme. Just my opinion though.
    What a silly little opinion that you that you have.

    Even if they raised twice as much America's stupid outdated FDA process is what will actually slow this all down.

    Hazah for American red tape!!!
    Not.

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2691

      Originally posted by Joker
      So it's been more than 6 months since Aderans has issued any sort of update, which is the longest gap in communication since early 2009.

      I really wish they'd say something about their clinical trial results/updated commercialization timeline (if they're still planning to commercialize). I know I'm reading WAY too much into this, but I hope this isn't a bad sign... this wait is killing me!

      Sorry, just venting. It's been a bad week.
      They'll also be talking at the Bahamas conference on October 17 - 20, if you're looking for a finalised update from their phase 2 trial then it'll likely be February 2013 at the very least.

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        Originally posted by Person
        In my personal opinion, Aderans is a waste of time. I definitely would not consider waiting around on them. They are FAR from finished. Realistically 2018. I used to research them then I realized how much more they have to do and how shady of a company aderans is. Its a lot of money raising and little progress. Seems like a money making scheme. Just my opinion though.
        Yes the same scam company that purchased Hair Club for a price of 163m USD, remember this is what they had to say on the matter:

        Aderans:"Acquiring Hair Club is an important step in our previously announced strategic shift away from focusing on business reorganization to emphasizing global revenue and profit expansion.
        Clearly, given that the HT and wig market has been saturated for so many years, they're referring to new technologies when they talk of "profit expansion", new technologies of the kind that have been in theoretical and practical development for over 30 years.

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        • Dan26
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1270

          I really have not been following Aderans, so I just want to ask someone who has been, when they believe it will be on market by, and what kind of results they have achieved.

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          • UK_
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 2691

            Originally posted by Dan26
            I really have not been following Aderans, so I just want to ask someone who has been, when they believe it will be on market by, and what kind of results they have achieved.
            They're currently in phase 2, with an efficacy rate of around 70% (works in the majority of patients) however this update was way back in late 2010 so I am guessing they may have seen better results.

            Possible release? They stated 2014 as a release date back in 2010, but I'm not too sure, if everything goes to plan we're probably realistically looking at a late 2015/early 2016 release.

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            • Person
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 104

              I hate to be negative, but im also a realistic person. I follow aderans.

              They are the definition of the "always 5 years away company". Quote me right now, in 2016 they will still be in phase II raising funds for Phase 3.

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              • Alf
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 91

                To be honest I will cry if aderans doesn't make it. Not because of being bald sucks, but i have gotten my hopes so much up.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  [IMG]http://www.************/hair-loss/img/uploaded/2879_image746.jpg[/IMG]


                  They have already invested nearly $100 million?
                  ~55 people in a 27,000-square-foot building?

                  What the hell have they done more than 10 years?

                  In the past, I really had high hopes for the Aderans guys, but the more I read about their science/knowledge in all their papers and patents during the past 3 years, I sometimes got the feeling that they still work completely in the dark.

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                  • bigentries
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 465

                    Originally posted by Person
                    I hate to be negative, but im also a realistic person. I follow aderans.

                    They are the definition of the "always 5 years away company". Quote me right now, in 2016 they will still be in phase II raising funds for Phase 3.
                    Funds would not be a problem if they had a product worth of moving to phase 3

                    From all the companies involved in HM, they already have the infrastructure to commercialize a product as soon as possible with the biggest profit. The only thing they lack is a product that works

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                    • yeahyeahyeah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1776

                      Originally posted by bigentries
                      Funds would not be a problem if they had a product worth of moving to phase 3

                      From all the companies involved in HM, they already have the infrastructure to commercialize a product as soon as possible with the biggest profit. The only thing they lack is a product that works
                      My money is on histogen.

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                      • Dazza
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 264

                        If you read histogen's latest patient aderans have been supplying them with human hair follicle cells.

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                        • bigentries
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 465

                          Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                          My money is on histogen.
                          They are the only ones that have shown a cosmetically relevant result

                          Super close up pictures are great for graphics and the scientific side, but the bottom line is that, everyone wants to know how our scalp is going to look to a complete stranger some feets away.

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                          • gmonasco
                            Inactive
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 865

                            Originally posted by bigentries
                            Funds would not be a problem if they had a product worth of moving to phase 3
                            Not so. Phase 3 testing alone eats up 90% of the costs of conducting clinical trials:

                            Yesterday, the Manhattan Institute released a study I authored, entitled “Stifling New Cures: The True Cost of Lengthy Clinical Drug Trials.” (You can read the full report here.) The paper discusses how outdated FDA policies are making drug development too expensive and too risky. In this excerpt, I detail why late-stage Phase III trials account for 90 percent of the cost of clinical trials in drug development, in fields like obesity, diabetes, and heart disease.

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                            • bigentries
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 465

                              Originally posted by gmonasco
                              Not so. Phase 3 testing alone eats up 90% of the costs of conducting clinical trials:

                              http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/201...-in-phase-iii/
                              Yes, but Bosley has enough money or can get a credit if they need it

                              If it was any other company, I would agree, as they would need to talk to potential partners or just sell the product to a bigger company, but I'm pretty sure Bosley wants all the profits for themselves, which is bad news for potential customers if whatever Aderans is testing really works

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                              • garethbale
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 603

                                I've no idea if and when Aderans will get to market, but I tend not to take anything Ken Washenik (their MD I think) says too seriously. I remember seeing a video in early 2008 of him proclaiming that hair multiplication could be with is in late 2009 / early 2010. I thought it was BS at the time, and therefore I've no reason to have much confidence in a possible solution (at least from Aderans) of being available in 2 or 3 years.

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