Aderans

[john2399]

Phase 3 = baldness cured.

You really believe aderans is the cure?

[Maradona]

You really believe aderans is the cure?

Any HM technique that goes to phase 3 is pretty much a cure but there will always be the unlucky ones that for some reason are not responsive to it.

Who knows?

For a real cure see:

http://bcrt.charite.de/index.php?id=391

http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/research/organ/hair.html

[hellouser]

For a real cure see:

http://bcrt.charite.de/index.php?id=391

I really want to know whats been going on with Dr. Lauster in the last few years. Theres been pretty much zero news about his work which is the most interesting of all as its a full blown permanent cure to this *disease* of MPB.

Have you heard anything from him at all?

[BoSox]

Many believe Aderans will be just an addition to HT, not an actual cure.. Do you guys honestly believe if phase 3 is a reality that we have the holy grail?

[Joker]

Nope. I definitely don't think this is the "holy grail" at all. But I do think it's a treatment that can eventually turn into a really solid solution for most people. No one can say for certain, though. Let's just hope they actually ARE in Phase 3 first!!!

[Gjm127]

Before people on this forum start thinking about release dates, what results are we looking at from Aderans? What technology do they use? Compared to Histogen and Replicel...?

Where is 2020? lol

[krewel]

Before people on this forum start thinking about release dates, what results are we looking at from Aderans? What technology do they use? Compared to Histogen and Replicel...?

This thread has over 350 posts. I guarantee you'll find the answers in this thread. There's no point in answering these questions every few pages again. I mean this board has really good search tools.

Let's see if someone will call the guys in Florida again. It will really surprise me, if her answer would be "Phase III" again.

[yeahyeahyeah]

This thread has over 350 posts. I guarantee you'll find the answers in this thread. There's no point in answering these questions every few pages again. I mean this board has really good search tools.

Let's see if someone will call the guys in Florida again. It will really surprise me, if her answer would be "Phase III" again.

You guys spend more time bitching and speculating, rather then being pro-active.

How hard is a ****ing phone call?

[yeahyeahyeah]

Nope. I definitely don't think this is the "holy grail" at all. But I do think it's a treatment that can eventually turn into a really solid solution for most people. No one can say for certain, though. Let's just hope they actually ARE in Phase 3 first!!!

With the amount they have spent, it will shock me if it fails outright.

Out of all companies, ARI has the biggest financial backing.

[krewel]

You guys spend more time bitching and speculating, rather then being pro-active.

How hard is a ****ing phone call?

I am everything but not a speculator and if I do, I do it carefully and write down my reasons. I think everyone that knows me on TBTT knows this.
I just don't think it's neccessary and pro-active to ask the same questions in the same thread 20x a row while you could use the search function. Otherwise every thread here would end up like that TRX-2 thread. I don't think anybody wants another TRX-2 thread.
I'd call them by myself, but right now I'm in Scandinavia and calling these guys from my mobile phone would be quite expensive for me. Hellouser wanted to call them too, so we already got one.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I am everything but not a speculator and if I do, I do it carefully and write down my reasons. I think everyone that knows me on TBTT knows this.
I just don't think it's neccessary and pro-active to ask the same questions in the same thread 20x a row while you could use the search function. Otherwise every thread here would end up like that TRX-2 thread. I don't think anybody wants another TRX-2 thread.
I'd call them by myself, but right now I'm in Scandinavia and calling these guys from my mobile phone would be quite expensive for me. Hellouser wanted to call them too, so we already got one.

Talking about the guys in the US.

End the speculation and call them ffs.

[hellouser]

I am everything but not a speculator and if I do, I do it carefully and write down my reasons. I think everyone that knows me on TBTT knows this.
I just don't think it's neccessary and pro-active to ask the same questions in the same thread 20x a row while you could use the search function. Otherwise every thread here would end up like that TRX-2 thread. I don't think anybody wants another TRX-2 thread.
I'd call them by myself, but right now I'm in Scandinavia and calling these guys from my mobile phone would be quite expensive for me. Hellouser wanted to call them too, so we already got one.

I just gave them a call in Tucscon, Arizona. I recorded the whole conversation, I'll post it later on. Speaking of which, anyone know where I can upload an MP3 file for download?

[yeahyeahyeah]

I just gave them a call in Tucscon, Arizona. I recorded the whole conversation, I'll post it later on. Speaking of which, anyone know where I can upload an MP3 file for download?

What did they say?

[gmonasco]

I really want to know whats been going on with Dr. Lauster in the last few years. Theres been pretty much zero news about his work which is the most interesting of all as its a full blown permanent cure to this *disease* of MPB. Have you heard anything from him at all?

He's apparently still working along those lines, as he contributed to a paper on the subject published last November:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3284944/?tool=pubmed

[hellouser]

What did they say?

Christ, I just checked the call recording quality and it is absolute CRAP. I can barely hear the girl that was on the phone with me, the quality is so bad its pretty much inaudible. I should mention I was at a restaurant with a lot of ambient noise.... I'll make another call to another location from home where its quiet, I should get a better recording (I'm really pissed).

In short, YES, they are taking in participants for Phase III as their Phase II trials have ended. Each location is in different phases, but again according to the clinical trials page online, all of them are in AT LEAST in the end of phase II. She also mentioned that Phase III will probably take around a year so the 2014 projected date they set in 2010 seems legit.

The bad news is this, and I really hope that this isnt the case... After the clinical trials are up, the FDA requires 2-3 years of more results/testing before giving the go ahead and having a final product on store shelves. So 2016/17 at this point seems more likely the case, BUT that also means that the presentation given in 2010 is also wrong since it *clearly* showed a commercial product in early 2014, which means a product for the public.

The great news is this:
They are only injecting a few hundred cells and their results are great, she mentioned the patients are walking out with THICK terminal hair so their solution is working. Of course, this was only a few hundred injections which means we could expect more hair or better results with more injections. I asked about the temple areas and she couldnt give a response since they are only focusing on the crown area. I wonder though, if the hairline/temples would require additional information or longer wait periods for the FDA to give clearance on their procedure.

I can put up the recorded conversation if someone knows a site where I can upload and share a 15mb file, but its really moot as the quality is absolutely awful (you can hear me just fine, but not the woman on the other end is very faint). I'm really pissed because she had a lot of great answers for me and its a 10 minute conversation, plus she mentioned shes with the company for 5 years.

Regardless, we're going to have much better information by january when aderans gives us their update.