Aderans

[krewel]

no, it will be less exp because we do not need a big team like in HT. take a sample from the donor area then multiply it in the lab and finally put it back to the head.

Here we go again, another wild claim. You don't need a team? Are you actually aware of the costs of cell-culturing? This has to be done in a special laboratory. According to Mr.Hall from Replicel (and their technology is pretty much the same) the costs will be about the same, or at least competitive. And he wasn't even sure about that.

[ulanude]

suppose a treatment comes in 2014 or lets say 2015,16 dont you beleive it will also be alot more expensive than conventional HTs??

we'd be lucky to see this in 2014-16. just too much money in HT (billion market)...and the lobby will just delay

[baldybald]

Here we go again, another wild claim. You don't need a team? Are you actually aware of the costs of cell-culturing? This has to be done in a special laboratory. According to Mr.Hall from Replicel (and their technology is pretty much the same) the costs will be about the same, or at least competitive. And he wasn't even sure about that.

maybe you are right, but also the price that feller gives is not the same as hasson or rahal even if they use the same thing(HT)

[BoSox]

Aderans utilizes patient's own hair to generate hair growth. The method is called Ji Gami which will provide unlimited number of hair generating cellular units.

I rest my case.

[Maradona]

Aderans utilizes patient's own hair to generate hair growth. The method is called Ji Gami which will provide unlimited number of hair generating cellular units.

I rest my case.

Hopefully we can find out what they are up to this year.

I really think Aderans and Tokyo should join their research. That would be a no fail strategy.

We learned from replicel that doing what they claim is not easy at all and bound to fail most of the time .

[krewel]

We learned from replicel that doing what they claim is not easy at all and bound to fail most of the time .

Replicel did not fail, but I don't want to go through this the 10th time. I heard a German interview with Prof.Hoffmann today and some patiens were showing >18% regrowth. That is absoluteley enough for Phase I. Phase II is planned to start 2013 in Germany with 60-100 participants and he is very confident about it.

[BoSox]

Replicel did not fail, but I don't want to go through this the 10th time. I heard a German interview with Prof.Hoffmann today and some patiens were showing >18% regrowth. That is absoluteley enough for Phase I. Phase II is planned to start 2013 in Germany with 60-100 participants and he is very confident about it.

If Aderans is planning to come to market in 2014, how will Replicel even make any money? Baldness will be in the history books, why bother continuing with trials?

[krewel]

If Aderans is planning to come to market in 2014, how will Replicel even make any money? Baldness will be in the history books, why bother continuing with trials?

Yes, that is my only concern with Replicel, which I mentioned some posts ago. I just wanted to make clear, that Replicel did not fail. All these false rumors are confusing people. But I guess if this problem appears for Replicel, it's not our concern anymore .

[Maradona]

Yes, that is my only concern with Replicel, which I mentioned some posts ago. I just wanted to make clear, that Replicel did not fail. All these false rumors are confusing people. But I guess if this problem appears for Replicel, it's not our concern anymore .

It's an opinion. Some people consider it a total failure others see it as promising.

Nobody knows what will happen.

[gutted]

we'd be lucky to see this in 2014-16. just too much money in HT (billion market)...and the lobby will just delay

intresting view...how about other treatments? like histogen etc?

[baldybald]

i sent an email to histogen 1 month ago, but everytime i ask for the timeline they just ignore that question and answer the rest. at least they answer. here is the answer after asking them for updates:

Thank you for your interest and message. In addition to information from Dr. Ziering’s clinical study, the HSC page of our website has been updated with preliminary results from the ongoing Phase I/II clinical trial (http://www.histogen.com/applications/hsc.htm).



Histogen is pleased with the progress of the HSC program, and the safety and efficacy results seen with the treatment thus far. Further clinical trials will be required prior to market introduction of HSC in the US or elsewhere.



Thank you,

Eileen

Eileen Brandt

Director of Corporate Communications

Histogen, Inc

and here is an answer from aderans 3 months ago when i asked them for updates:

Right now our clinical sites have completed their enrollment for theactive protocols. We anticipate starting additional protocols and clinicsites in the coming months. Please continue to keep an eye on ourwebsite for updates using the link below. http://aderansresearch.com/ari_clinicupdates.html Thank you for your interest.
Info Desk
Aderans Research

[gmonasco]

we'd be lucky to see this in 2014-16. just too much money in HT (billion market)...and the lobby will just delay

The hair transplant industry has no leverage to stop a multi-national corporation from bringing a hair loss treatment to market.

[Maradona]

The hair transplant industry has no leverage to stop a multi-national corporation from bringing a hair loss treatment to market.

Yup, all they can do is talk shit on it and corner you into a HT.

[JRQ]

Statistically speaking and at this point, I don't even consider Replicel as part of the game. I have my scope narrowed down to Histogen and Aderans, particularly the latter of the two. The technology Aderans is touting is a bit like a HT on steroids, but it can ultimately cure baldness. When you think of a normal single session transplant of typically around 2-4k grafts (not FUE), Aderans looks awesome. You're talking about unlimited follicles compared to a couple of thousand here and there.

I do hope that hair loss technology continues to progress until an actual pill can stop hair loss. Until that point, I'm fine with a small incision in the back of my scalp to produce unlimited follicles. I just want my damn hair line back lol.

[Alf]

If Aderans is planning to come to market in 2014, how will Replicel even make any money? Baldness will be in the history books, why bother continuing with trials?

If the technology to replicel is cheaper or better in some other way they can take the market anyway.