OC000459? (Yes that's its name)

[gutted]

then kiss your hair goodbye!

loooool why?

i didnt say it wont work.

[yeahyeahyeah]

the official study didn't extend to 2 years. They said "the hair APPEARED to persist" and that's that.... yes one anagen phase lasts 2-3 years so it will be a while until it falls out again.

I hope my theory isn't true though...

Even if it is , 3 years is a long time

[2020]

the official study didn't extend to 2 years. They said "the hair APPEARED to persist" and that's that.... yes one anagen phase lasts 2-3 years so it will be a while until it falls out again.

I hope my theory isn't true though...

[UK_]

Apparently 2020 believes that Histogen may only last one hair cycle?

After they did the first follow-up for Phase I, people on here were saying it wouldnt last more than 3 months, they were doing all sorts of cost calculations, multiplying how many lifetime treatments one would need, concluding that you'd have to be a millionaire to even entertain the idea of engaging in the treatment.

Low & behold 2 years on the hair kept growing, we've even seen data that shows increased dosage results in better growth, what more do people need to stfu?

[lilpauly]

oc000459 has alot of science behind it!

[lilpauly]

i second that.

then kiss your hair goodbye!

[gutted]

Nobody should take ANYTHING than any ONE person says here too seriously. 2020 is young, emotional (understandable) about hair loss and thus makes claims like, "this WILL grow hair" or "that treatment WON'T last more than 1 hair cycle". Such definitive claims are not only outlandish, but also detrimental to this community. It just gets people riled up and forum noobs to fire off high-level questions that have been already been addressed time and time again. Human physiology is so complex and intricately interdependent that NOBODY knows what treatment will have exactly what level of efficacy and for how long on any particular individual. Unless you are personally a professional expert committing full-time in a "hair science lab" with ample resources and dedication - your conclusive claims about future hair loss treatments are MEANINGLESS.

We all need to come back down to earth here. Replicel+Histogen could prove to be a full-on cure in combination for some people. It could also just as well provide one cycle of X

i second that.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Apparently 2020 believes that Histogen may only last one hair cycle?

Even if it does, that is 5 years worth of hair.

Just top up.

Dont understand the big hoo ha here.

[TrueGround]

Continued: X% regrowth. They may not work in combination at all. Every opinion until further trials are completed and products are brought to market is pure speculation. Let's get real people, use your heads! Be excited companies are dedicating millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to make progress. In the meantime, come to grips with hair loss best you can. I know I refuse to sit around on my comp for the next 3,5,10+ years frantically looking for an answer - because its not there yet. Plus I don't want to look back and regret all of that lost time.

Live life men! At least you're not a woman losing hair - and if you are, you've got to have more balls than any guy here to accept this situation for what it is!

[TrueGround]

Nobody should take ANYTHING than any ONE person says here too seriously. 2020 is young, emotional (understandable) about hair loss and thus makes claims like, "this WILL grow hair" or "that treatment WON'T last more than 1 hair cycle". Such definitive claims are not only outlandish, but also detrimental to this community. It just gets people riled up and forum noobs to fire off high-level questions that have been already been addressed time and time again. Human physiology is so complex and intricately interdependent that NOBODY knows what treatment will have exactly what level of efficacy and for how long on any particular individual. Unless you are personally a professional expert committing full-time in a "hair science lab" with ample resources and dedication - your conclusive claims about future hair loss treatments are MEANINGLESS.

We all need to come back down to earth here. Replicel+Histogen could prove to be a full-on cure in combination for some people. It could also just as well provide one cycle of X

[JDW]

Apparently 2020 believes that Histogen may only last one hair cycle?

What is this based on?
If HSC is combined with replicel then you could have one treatment reawakening follicles and the other treatment protecting those follicles

[Conpecia]

What growth cycle issue are you referring to?

Apparently 2020 believes that Histogen may only last one hair cycle?

[UK_]

After finally taking a look at the Histogen results and pictures, I let out a huge sigh of relief. Cosmetically significant regrowth without adverse sides. Hopefully the growth cycle issue can be resolved by simply receiving more injections.

I've gotten really negative ever since having to get off finasteride, but I do think we'll be ok eventually (within this decade). The question is how long. If it's 2015-16, I'm cool with that. Anything later and I may have to take more drastic measures.

What growth cycle issue are you referring to?

[Conpecia]

I will go to gho if HSC/or a good alternative treatment is not out by then.

Ditto. Although hopefully by then Gho's technique will have made it to the U.S.

[Kirby_]

Various PGD2 inhibitors are being researched. Even OC000459 can still happen if a less incompetent compounding service works on it. There are other already known PGD2 inhibitors as well.

Guess we'll have to keep optimistic that somewhere OC000459 can be synthesised eventually, or at least something that works in an equivalent manner catches on... At least we know that OC000459 isn't the only possible PGD2 inhibiting substance.