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  • jpm
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    I heard that this new treatment could be available early june.

    If so and anyone gets hold of it. Please keep me updated. I would like to give this a try

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  • jpm
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    Originally posted by 2020
    pretty much - it reduces the levels of PGD2
    cheers...guess it will be a daily application then

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by jpm
    Sorry i must be getting confused!! how does it work then? is it a pdg2 inhibitor?
    pretty much - it reduces the levels of PGD2

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  • jpm
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    Originally posted by 2020
    huh? This is not how OC0459 work
    Sorry i must be getting confused!! how does it work then? is it a pdg2 inhibitor?

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by jpm
    @2020

    Will you be trying it?
    I'll try to get my hands on it, yes.


    Originally posted by jpm
    If it degrades the receptors rather than just blocks them. Surely it won't need to be used daily?? If, for example, the Androgen receptor takes 7 days to regenerate then surely using it once a week is enough?
    huh? This is not how OC0459 work


    Originally posted by jpm
    one more question....where are you going to buy it from?
    I don't know yet. The person who ordered the first will test it soon and if it doesn't happen to be a fake, then he will give us the name of the lab that made it

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  • jpm
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    Originally posted by jpm
    @2020

    Will you be trying it?

    If it degrades the receptors rather than just blocks them. Surely it won't need to be used daily?? If, for example, the Androgen receptor takes 7 days to regenerate then surely using it once a week is enough?
    just to add....I'm probably going to want to try this stuff because of the hype over it.

    one more question....where are you going to buy it from?

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  • jpm
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    Originally posted by jpm
    How will this be delivered into the the scalp?

    If it only needs to be used once or twice a week would it be an idea to just put it into shampoo?

    Sorry for the nooob questions. lol
    Originally posted by 2020
    early june.

    it will be a topical just like CB, RU....
    @2020

    Will you be trying it?

    If it degrades the receptors rather than just blocks them. Surely it won't need to be used daily?? If, for example, the Androgen receptor takes 7 days to regenerate then surely using it once a week is enough?

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by Gjm127
    Hey 2020, when will you guys get your hands on this?
    Are they preparing it in form of pills or foam?
    early june.

    it will be a topical just like CB, RU....

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  • Gjm127
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    Hey 2020, when will you guys get your hands on this?
    Are they preparing it in form of pills or foam?

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  • jpm
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    How will this be delivered into the the scalp?

    If it only needs to be used once or twice a week would it be an idea to just put it into shampoo?

    Sorry for the nooob questions. lol

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by Aston
    There are quite a few known hair growth accelerators.
    most require continual application or results subside, hence they are artificial short term growth stimulants, sort of like life support machine for the follicle.

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  • Aston
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    My reasoning is that since nutrients don't reach the follicles with MPB, but do once the inflammation is subsided, increasing the amount of hair nutrients ingested would also make the results of the procedure easier to see. There are quite a few known hair growth accelerators.

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by Aston
    If that actually works and works as described, an increase in hair nutrients ingested would also be recommendable...
    it probably works by getting rid of the infection, not by increasing nutrients to the hair follicle. Increasing nutrients to the follicle is probably a by product of getting rid of the infection.

    Minoxidil increases nutrients to the follicle to, it triggers the pathway required for hair regrowth (nitric oxide, decreases pgd2, increase the good prostglandins) but it does this artificially the key to permanent hair regrowth is doing this natrually, getting the body to do it rather than some chemical!

    we will have to wait a few months while those guys test it out, to see if daily applications will be required.

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  • Aston
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    Originally posted by gutted
    heres a patent that explains the use of antibiotics to fight hair loss, but the intresting thing the inventor notes is that it only needs to be used for a limited time, not for life.


    PatentStorm is a database and reference site containing information about current, pending, and expired U.S. and world patents.


    i think the guys on the other forum trying this out also need to address their scalp health also, nizoral may suffice.
    If that actually works and works as described, an increase in hair nutrients ingested would also be recommendable...

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by Aston
    It's not a cure in any case, it will probably require daily applications. Plus the patented MPB Prostaglandin treatment is a mix of growth stimulating 'glandins and PGD2 inhibitor(s) and not just the latter. I'm assuming it could be marketed as a daily use shampoo. We also know that androgenic receptors can mutate when inhibited too much, who can tell that won't happen with the PGD2 receptor as well?
    I think the most realistic expectation is, as usual, a mix of the best and the worst: a pretty good treatment which requires daily application and can lose effectiveness after a few years, being somewhat expensive as well. Something to look forward too? Definitely, but "the cure"? I seriously doubt it.

    Then again, i would be incredibly glad to be proven wrong.
    its possible it may require daily use, but again its also possible it may not require daly use, only until the hairs have been allowed to regenerate.

    i think minox and propecia have put a misconception into peoples heads that whatever they use for baldness needs to be used for life, which is the case for minox but possibly not the case for propecia.

    heres a patent that explains the use of antibiotics to fight hair loss, but the intresting thing the inventor notes is that it only needs to be used for a limited time, not for life.


    PatentStorm is a database and reference site containing information about current, pending, and expired U.S. and world patents.


    i think the guys on the other forum trying this out also need to address their scalp health also, nizoral may suffice.


    once MPB is finally figured out, i see products being released which will reverse baldness/thinning and will NOT neccasarily need to be used for life however maintenance sessions may be needed if you experience subsequent thinng.

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