Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[bananana]

Conpecia - please dont start again.

Guys, I've found it somewhat cheaper at swanson:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/mobil...ail/JR097.html (this is a mobile link - I'm on iphone)
Shipping to my part of the world is ~$28,
I'm thinking about ordering 6 packs right away, so I'm good for at least 6 monts.

Other sources you mentioned (except vitacost) are way too expensive.
~$50 for 1 month supply + shipping is off my chart.

I really hope cheaper version works as good as the other one does.

[2020]

http://www.mikemahler.com/online-library/articles/hormone-optimization/dihydrotestosterone-king-of-male-androgens.html

...If you are prone to baldness, tocotrienols are a must. Tocotreienols are a special form of Vitamin E that help with hair growth and slowing down hair loss. Men that are prone to baldness will accelerate hair loss with ramped up DHT levels. If you are not prone to baldness then it will not likely be an issue....

can't be..

[NotBelievingIt]

Can't be what?

He's simply saying as part of the whole context that increased androgen receptor uptake with increased testosterone and thus DHT will accelerate hair loss, thats all - and why he recommends tocotreinol supplementation.

[2020]

Can't be what?

He's simply saying as part of the whole context that increased androgen receptor uptake with increased testosterone and thus DHT will accelerate hair loss, thats all - and why he recommends tocotreinol supplementation.

right, but how could it possibly slow down balding??
We know that it doesn't block DHT (probably increases it), so how would it work for your hair? Does it make your follicles more resistant to DHT or what?

This goes against everything we know...

[NotBelievingIt]

Vitamin E helps promote circulation in the scalp and Vitamin E in general is good for healthy growth of hair.

So by virtue of improving the health of existing hair, it will slow the process down since the DHT strangulation that goes on will take longer.

It might even have the potential to strengthen resistance against DHT and therefore "bring back to life" (at least somewhat) hairs that have miniturized greatly. Likely they would never return to their full size, but even the smaller hairs becoming fuller and thicker would help diminish the appearance of loss.

Since there has been no controlled study its tough to say, plus it appears these full complex Vitamin E supplements with high tocotreinol uptake have only been around a few years now and more popular in the body building world. It will take time to shift out of that since that world is full of supplement this, supplement that.

Shampoos that improve volume only have Vitamin E tocopherols in them since they are far more easier to find in nature, so we might start seeing hair products with the -treinols in them one of these days.

[StressedToTheBald]

Shampoos that improve volume only have Vitamin E tocopherols in them since they are far more easier to find in nature, so we might start seeing hair products with the -treinols in them one of these days.

I think I might have mixed E vitamins in my MSM balm.

[Jcm800]

My caps arrived just now. Talk about fast delivery!

Anyway I'll start popping them and see if anything occurs.

[Maradona]

My caps arrived just now. Talk about fast delivery!

Anyway I'll start popping them and see if anything occurs.

Let us know broseph.

[Jcm800]

Let us know broseph.

Just popped two today and sprouted an affro

Sure I'll keep updates coming dude.

[Zed]

i'm in uk and thinking of ordering toco 8 or toco sorb. which one is known to be more effective and can you buy at any shops in uk? like body building shops even?

[NotBelievingIt]

i'm in uk and thinking of ordering toco 8 or toco sorb. which one is known to be more effective and can you buy at any shops in uk? like body building shops even?

AFAIK the only difference between the two is the dosage. It uses the same underlying source (Carotech).

60 servings of Toco 8 has a roughly double the -pherol and -trienol counts that Toco Sorb does at 60 servings as well.

But Toco Sorb costs half as much, so if you match the dose, the cost is basically the same.

But like any other non-medicine there have been no studies that indicate whether Toco Sorb has the same effect as Toco 8 at their standard dosing. Plus the additional benefit of the -trienols apparently have only been known now for 2-3 years and only gained attention for benefits of hair growth promotion within maybe the last 1-2 years.

[2020]

AFAIK the only difference between the two is the dosage. It uses the same underlying source (Carotech).

60 servings of Toco 8 has a roughly double the -pherol and -trienol counts that Toco Sorb does at 60 servings as well.

But Toco Sorb costs half as much, so if you match the dose, the cost is basically the same.

But like any other non-medicine there have been no studies that indicate whether Toco Sorb has the same effect as Toco 8 at their standard dosing. Plus the additional benefit of the -trienols apparently have only been known now for 2-3 years and only gained attention for benefits of hair growth promotion within maybe the last 1-2 years.

Toco-8 comes in a powder so it absorbs much MUCH better than those plastic pills from toco-sorb.......

[yeahyeahyeah]

Toco-8 comes in a powder so it absorbs much MUCH better than those plastic pills from toco-sorb.......

I have ordered the powder, checked out a lot of body building forums. Seems like everybody is saying good things about this. Not read any bad reviews.

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=toco+8&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=153l1182l0l1353l6l6l0l0l0l0l409l1783l3-4.1l5l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=667&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=501504837806558656&sa=X&ei=hmlCT6L3EYSs0QXXh7yPDw&ved=0CD4Q8wIwAQ

I have very mild hairloss (mature hairline), and as I am looking to start working out-hard at the gym, I am using this for preventative measures if anything.

Will keep you guys updated.

[bananana]

Toco-8 comes in a powder so it absorbs much MUCH better than those plastic pills from toco-sorb.......

Is that a fact or a presumption?
Source of that information?

Until I get home and order (probably) toco sorb, I bought a small can of vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol - 400 IU - 1333%,
d-beta tocopherol, d-gamma and d-delta tocopherol - 67 mg)

What do you think - do tocopherols have similar effect as tocotrienols (probably not) and could I take these vitamins (until depleted) together with toco when it arrives? Or would it be too much of vitamin E - since this is already at 1333% daily value (keep in mind probably only 20-30% of that gets to blood stream)

[2020]

Is that a fact or a presumption?

That's a fact. Read about it on BodyBuilding forums.

I have ordered the powder, checked out a lot of body building forums. Seems like everybody is saying good things about this. Not read any bad reviews.

Apparently it also reversed grey hair for some people so yeah it's probably a fantastic vitamin, but I don't think it does much against MPB...
It's also quite expensive - $30/month.....