Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

[StressedToTheBald]

Yeah, it's safe, that's why they took propecia.com down and are losing lawsuits left and right.

Get with the program Harrisson. Propecia was cool back when it was launched as the MIRACLE PILL but the cat was out of the bag soon enough.

It makes no sense that people in 2012 are still on that man-poison.

Exactly. Well said.

[Conpecia]

Propecia is rather helpful for those who don't have incidence of sides actually.

But let's keep the discussion oriented towards tocotrienols. I've ordered some in hopes of testing efficacy. I will start taking daily as soon as they arrive.

Way to carry on my friend. I'll be interested in seeing how things work. I myself will hopefully be good to go in two or three weeks and will restart the 8 month trial.

[clandestine]

Way to carry on my friend. I'll be interested in seeing how things work. I myself will hopefully be good to go in two or three weeks and will restart the 8 month trial.

No worries. Problem with me is I really need to find a retailer that carries them in Canada if I hope to be in this for the long term. For the first batch I've had to ship from the US, as you can imagine this is extremely costly.

[NotBelievingIt]

But let's keep the discussion oriented towards tocotrienols. I've ordered some in hopes of testing efficacy. I will start taking daily as soon as they arrive.

What else are you doing? Testing the efficacy claims of hair growth from this while taking anything else seems iffy, unless you've been just using fin and not seeing any loss or growth.

Now me...I'm considering this after discovering it here. Right now I am...adverse...to screwing with my hormones chemically. If doing something natural screws with my hormones fine. Not chemically.

[clandestine]

What else are you doing? Testing the efficacy claims of hair growth from this while taking anything else seems iffy, unless you've been just using fin and not seeing any loss or growth.

Now me...I'm considering this after discovering it here. Right now I am...adverse...to screwing with my hormones chemically. If doing something natural screws with my hormones fine. Not chemically.

Not taking anything else currently.

As I've mentioned though, I'll only be able to continue any sort of trial if I can eventually find a retailer somewhere in Canada.

[EXprettyboy]

I've been on toco 8 for 3 weeks now. Beard growth has indeed accelerated. Temples stubbling with miniature bristles. promising.

I must admit I have resumed my regimen with renewed vigor and added several new agents so I can't report on toco 8 under controlled experiment conditions. My logic is simple; they all probably work modestly in their own right by different mechanisms... BUT I don't have time to test each individually and be repeatedly disappointed; My ONLY chance at cosmetically significant improvements is to blitz everything.

I never touched propecia.

Survive this next stretch of 1 or 2 years and a real solution will hopefully redeem us entirely.

[clandestine]

I've been on toco 8 for 3 weeks now. Beard growth has indeed accelerated. Temples stubbling with miniature bristles. promising.

I must admit I have resumed my regimen with renewed vigor and added several new agents so I can't report on toco 8 under controlled experiment conditions. My logic is simple; they all probably work modestly in their own right by different mechanisms... BUT I don't have time to test each individually and be repeatedly disappointed; My ONLY chance at cosmetically significant improvements is to blitz everything.

I never touched propecia.

Survive this next stretch of 1 or 2 years and a real solution will hopefully redeem us entirely.

Don't be afraid to disclose your current regimen mate. I for one am curious, as I'm sure others may be.

[Jcm800]

Yeah even tho I felt ripped off with TRX2 lol I'm willing to take a punt on this stuff, seems cheap n cheerful.

So what's the 'best' brand that can be ordered from the UK anyone?

[Maradona]

I've been on toco 8 for 3 weeks now. Beard growth has indeed accelerated. Temples stubbling with miniature bristles. promising.

I must admit I have resumed my regimen with renewed vigor and added several new agents so I can't report on toco 8 under controlled experiment conditions. My logic is simple; they all probably work modestly in their own right by different mechanisms... BUT I don't have time to test each individually and be repeatedly disappointed; My ONLY chance at cosmetically significant improvements is to blitz everything.

I never touched propecia.

Survive this next stretch of 1 or 2 years and a real solution will hopefully redeem us entirely.

man i thought this was snake oil in pill form but i wanna buy it now.
Share your regimen with your bald brothers man.

[2020]

To all those people who reported thicker beard growth: that is a bad sign!

Apparently tocotrienols INCREASE testosterone production:

http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdateTrocotrienols4-08.html

that's why your hair elsewhere gets thicker while the hair on your scalp gets thinner... the cause of that is extra testosterone

[StressedToTheBald]

Now me...I'm considering this after discovering it here. Right now I am...adverse...to screwing with my hormones chemically. If doing something natural screws with my hormones fine. Not chemically.

I'm 'screwing' my hormones naturally via beta sitosterol, saw palmetto, also soon will include ganoderma lucidum.. they all are proven DHT combatants. Still roughly in my 1st month here..

[EXprettyboy]

Nothing will reverse a bald scalp right now.... I know this.

But if your on the threshold, you can halt the progress and rejuvenate what you've got to some degree. So a troubled young man, receding and thinning, should be able to buy them-self some time and peace with an intensive regimen.

1. Rogaine extra strength.
(I use too much of this and it has given me hair where I don't want it. I don't care cause I can get that removed).

2. [Resveratrol maximum strength] + [curcumin]
the combination is patented in Italy for hair loss. Expensive combo but definitely helped me somewhat. Resveratrol has a powerful antioxidant affect. Raises testosterone, burns fat, activates sirt 1 gene that supposedly improves health and slows cellular aging.

3. Lasers
I used a hairmax laser comb for a long time and saw nothing. After further research I realized that the studies showing laser light to be beneficial delivered 7 joules of energy per 2cm squared. 5 diode combs deliver about 0.5 of a joule in a 20 minute session which is useless. I'm just finishing my homemade 170 diode helmet which I have high hopes for. theres a site that shows how to make one thats easy to find. a single diode costs about $3. A tricky expensive project.

4. Toco 8
Apart from what we've heard here it increases testosterone, Is another powerful antioxidant, supposedly lengthens telomeres of DNA (slows aging).

5. GROH hair and nails
Expensive. Marketed for women to improve hair health. looks like a total gimick. Recently pateted for hairloss though. big antioxidant. unique form of vitamin d. just started taking it last week.

6. Acai berry
Big antioxidant in my antioxidant flood.

7. Fish oils omega 3 6 9
No direct hairloss benefit, but apparently improves the skin and hairs quality, amongst a host of other benefits most notably sharpening the mind.

8. Drop free radical vices ie smoking or any other obviously unhealthy habits.


good luck

[2020]

I'm 'screwing' my hormones naturally via beta sitosterol, saw palmetto, also soon will include ganoderma lucidum.. they all are proven DHT combatants. Still roughly in my 1st month here..

.... Some men taking saw palmetto as an alternative treatment for an enlarged prostate and other health conditions have experienced sexual side effects, such as erectile dysfunction, discomfort in and around the testicles and changes in sexual desire, according to the National Institutes of Health.....

... Beta-sitosterol has also been linked to reports of erectile dysfunction (ED) and loss of interest in sex....

[Kirby_]

.... Some men taking saw palmetto as an alternative treatment for an enlarged prostate and other health conditions have experienced sexual side effects, such as erectile dysfunction, discomfort in and around the testicles and changes in sexual desire, according to the National Institutes of Health.....

... Beta-sitosterol has also been linked to reports of erectile dysfunction (ED) and loss of interest in sex....

I had massively worse problems dabbling with Saw Palmetto than I've ever had with fin, side effects just like the ones you mention 2020, including nipple pains. Wish I'd never tried that awful stuff.

[StressedToTheBald]

Studies have been done showing that neither saw palmetto nor beta sitosterol induce serious or permanent effects as does propecia.

I have used saw palmetto in tea form, now I'm using it in tablet form, and I'm perfectly fine. Same goes for beta sitosterol, no problems whatsoever !