Tocotrienol (vitamin E) may reverse male pattern baldness

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    What does everyone think about the fact that toco-8 actually RAISES testosterone? That cannot be good for hair...

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    • 2020
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1513

      Originally posted by panacea2012
      Thanks for sharing! I think your teachings could help a lot of people around the world.
      Spiritual Teachers
      why!??!?!?

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      • EXprettyboy
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 101

        Originally posted by 2020
        What does everyone think about the fact that toco-8 actually RAISES testosterone? That cannot be good for hair...
        Testosterone and the notorious potent form DHT are wonderful androgens with one only to well known drawback.....

        Eh .."certain", treatments have sought the elimination of these great hormones to eradicate their 1 drawback (balding), with devastating consequences for some unfortunate males.

        IF only their was some treatments out there that interfered with DHT's interaction at the site of hairloss, yet did not reduce it. Imagine treatments that had testosterone boosting side affects.... but wait > Toco....

        I personally embrace any treatment that boosts testosterone yet ironically reverses hair loss. And then I hit the gym with abandon, fearless of androgen sensitivity knowing that's no longer an issue due to the interventions of my new medicines.

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        • UK_
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2691

          During foetal development every male starts to develop androgen-resistant hairs, how on earth medical science can reverse-engineer this natural process and actually mimic it in the lab is beyond me. Trying to recreate a hair follicle in the lab with every intricate function working like clockwork is like looking for a small piece of hay in a very large pile of needles whilst wearing boxing gloves.

          Evan Lausters lab-generated hair did not contain EVERY aspect of the follicle that the human body can just create with such seeming ease. We'll be needing the help of the bodies own physiological functions to 'cure' hair loss; "a dose of what works well there, here".

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          • StressedToTheBald
            Inactive
            • Jan 2012
            • 452

            During embrionic development is the only stage in life where DHT seems to play a positive role. Beyond that, in adult males.. its either responsible for baldness or prostate cancer.. either way it does no one no good !

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            • NotBelievingIt
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 594

              Originally posted by 2020
              What does everyone think about the fact that toco-8 actually RAISES testosterone? That cannot be good for hair...
              Its not exactly Toco8 that does it, its Vitamin E.

              It helps boost T because it helps the body metabolize to it better.

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              • StressedToTheBald
                Inactive
                • Jan 2012
                • 452

                Vitamin E might also play a role in boosting nitric oxide as well as blocking androgen receptors. What dosage would be suitable for that.. most likely very high !

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                • EXprettyboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 101

                  Originally posted by StressedToTheBald
                  During embrionic development is the only stage in life where DHT seems to play a positive role. Beyond that, in adult males.. its either responsible for baldness or prostate cancer.. either way it does no one no good !
                  ......If that were true... it's depletion would be of no consequence.

                  Lets not fear what the male body naturally produces. DHT is not the problem, our evolutionary scalp sensitivity to it is. It's a vestigial trait that is no longer of benefit.



                  tocotrienols are a treatment option for those who despise the notion of reducing our androgens, and it is apparent that we are plentiful. So at worst people at least have a choice in their regimen recruiting, whereas before the only choice people had was basically anti-androgens or nothing!

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                  • clandestine
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2002

                    Originally posted by bananana
                    Also I'm looking for the best "bang for the buck" supplier that delivers to southeastern europe. I'm thinking about ordering from US, but the shipping is kinda high (~$30).
                    Uhg, same issue. I feel your international shipping prices pain.

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                    • NotBelievingIt
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 594

                      Toco8

                      I noticed amazon.com is out now and I frankly don't want to sign up anywhere else just to order that one product....

                      Wondering how much more potent Toco8 is compared to another Complete Vitamin E complex.

                      Tocotreinols are Tocotreinols

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                      • AgainstThis
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 461

                        This is where I'm ordering from for Europe : http://www.lefeurope.com/product_inf...ucts_id/116802

                        It's the same compound that was used in that promising study. Fingers crossed

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                        • 2020
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1513

                          "....Vitamin E can improve hair follicle micro circulation, ensure sufficient nutrition supply hair follicle, make the hair regeneration. Simple alopecia areata is caused by small angiogenesis contraction, and it can be cured by apply natural vitamin E and eating food contain rich vitamin E....."

                          interesting...

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            Tks for the heads up Against - i've just ordered some from here http://www.victoriahealth.com/produc...ienols/7917/0/

                            Fck it - might be gnats piss in a capsule but i'll give it a try.

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                            • 2020
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1513

                              VitaCost is having a sale:



                              $13.96 for 60 pills (46% off).

                              ^ If you take 2 of those a day then it may amount to the same amount that toco-8 has...

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                              • Conpecia
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 904

                                Originally posted by 2020
                                VitaCost is having a sale:



                                $13.96 for 60 pills (46% off).

                                ^ If you take 2 of those a day then it may amount to the same amount that toco-8 has...
                                Welly welly well, my droogs. Look who decided to use his malenky gulliver for once and peet tocos like the rest of his brothers...

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