Is HASCI for real?

[RichardDawkins]

Yes those are two of them. And those are after fotos of Wesley Sneijder

Trac but i am happy that you consider a lesser invasive methode rather then cutting the back of your head.

I really cant undertand women who go for FUT, its ethical desastrous that surgeons perform this.

here are some high profile patients

1) Gerald Joling (multiple ST sesions and prior FUt transplant before)
2) Brigitte Maasland (eye brows)
3) Wesley Sneijder
4) Some musicians from the netherlands
5) scissor boy, some hair guru from Canada
6) Frans Baur
7) Jan De Hoop
8) Gert jan Theunisse (sportive)
9) gcuk (he has scarring alopecia and got HSI, i just call him a celebrity i dont know why but he deserves it)
10) Tim Akkerman
11) Regina Hees (Burning victim) http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx
12) Igli (young burning patient with multiple sessions) http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx
13) some females http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx

[damielmillo]

I think, this is the best 2 examples.
Wesley sjneider and Dean Saunders (Singer from Holland)
Sjneider is a future NW5 and Dean Saunders i think is a NW6
And if he can take the hair very short i think something good is doing HASCI
what do you think guys?

[Tracy C]

And the fact that Gho operates on high profile patients......do you really think he would be so stupid to promote donor regeneration when he cant deliver it and then operate on high profile patients?

Can you name them?

Oh and Gho doesnt shave the whole head on females.

It doesn't make much difference if it is her whole head or just part of her head. Do you have any idea how long it takes to grow your hair back out? I've been enslaved by wigs before. I could do it again, but I need more than what I have seen to convince me to go though that again.

[RichardDawkins]

I meant this is a positive way.

But nor surgeon will answer you this question. As a nice example here.

One clinic in the dutch european region and a direct competitor to Gho did post a segment about Hair Stem cells on their homepage, the funny thing was, it was only on the dutch version of the homepage :-)

When i openly dicussed this at hairsite a few months back, this article miraculously disappeared :-) and my uestions why this statement was only on the dutch version was ignored and my posting priviledges got of course restricted, even i didnt even attack anyone (rare i know but from time to time i am not agressive at all)

The only surgeons right now which have not yet bashed Gho are well Cole, Cooley and Hitzig and even the Replicel guys and Histogen guys didnt mock Gho at some point they mentioned that all of those can go hand in hand.

And of course for this act of truth they got their asses handled by shills and other clinics.

All i can tell you is, that in the European Union, you simply cant pull some marketing stunts without gtting banhammered permanently. For example Gho was bancrupt in the early 2000s and his then FM wasnt as consistent as he wanted it to be.

And now he is still there and he gets positive coverage. In holland, people who are new to hair loss, really believe that donor regeneration is just a standard, and they are ground shattered when you tell them about FUT.

And the fact that Gho operates on high profile patients......do you really think he would be so stupid to promote donor regeneration when he cant deliver it and then operate on high profile patients?

Oh and Gho doesnt shave the whole head on females.

[Tracy C]

Tracy you punched a wasps nest big time with your statement :-)

Really?

There was nothing unreasonable about it. This is a big deal. These concerns need to be addressed. Maybe they will be some day, but until then it's just talk?

[RichardDawkins]

Btw the last problem will only change when the old dinosaur docs like Rassman left the spot.

This was also stated briefly by Dr Hitzig in this interview here where he said that Rassman said something along the lines that he will retire soon.

Which is the best thing for us because with this to happen, there is a new way for far more advanced and interested docs out there.

But FUT will fall in the next three years definitely and FUE will be refined to the point of donor regeneration in a two digit percentage 30% or something but it wont be that consistent.

Also i can guarantee you that a lot of HST clinics will rise in asia, where donor regeneration will be a standard

[RichardDawkins]

Tracy you punched a wasps nest big time with your statement :-)

Not all docs are calling Gho a liar, for example Dr Cole never said Gho is a scam or something because he also witnessed donor regrowth.

You know what Docs like Rassman say all the time

" We offer our patients proven transplants and we dont use treatments which have not been proven"

Wanna know a secret Tracy, they said the exact same words when Woods came up with FUE " FUE is not working" that was the statement.

Tracy i am really sorry but you will never ever witness in your lifetime that other surgeons will tell you the truth this way.

Just remember what happened when Dr Cole talked about donor regeneration in his experience......He was so hard attacked for those statements like no one else.

Patients who send emails to clinics get harshly attacked back big time.

Even with Cooley, Hitzig and Cole offering traditional transplants, at least they should be given credits for doing something else.

Also i have to say a lot of FUE surgeons right now, even if they have good results, should considerHST because it gives patients lesser downtime then even FUE.

Acell btw is a small step to decreasing downtime and scarring and provide mild regeneration (but its not a miracle)

[Tracy C]

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

I don't need to see something that drastic, but if any doctor is going to tell me that he needs to shave my head, he or she better have more than just one or two photos. I would also like to see photos of patients one and two years post op... Lots of them... It is one thing to shave a man’s head. It is something entirely different to shave a woman’s head.

Tracy i hope this will help you somehow

It does... I would like to see more photos. I would also like to read comments from other doctors about what Dr. Gho is claiming to be able to do. I would like to read in their own words why they haven't adopted his technique. These cash cow speculations are not working for me. If any doctor could improve their practice so dramatically, he or she would be crazy not to do so.

[Follicle Death Row]

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

Same. This is what we're waiting for. Let's hope we see it.

[didi]

He is booked out till end of 2012, wow, that is something.
You have to think whos got the most to lose if Gho is success?

FUE/FUT docs, this site and all other sites/forums would become thing of the past, there would be no need for ISHRS/IAHRS or any other association.
There are quite a few people who would lose money

Gho is either pathetic liar and very good at it since he is able to run clinics throughout europe OR he is legit;

All i wanna see full blown NW6 with full head of hair and then im sold 100%

[RichardDawkins]

Hey gc yes its me Stevie.Dee

I quit hairsite for multiple reasons

1) Every Gho patient like you is handled like a criminal in a cross examination with a subtile tone of being accused as a liar

2) they dont intervent in bashing, flaming and personal attacks, but when you ask hard uestions about Armani, they delete all your postings etc

3) They censor words like scam and fraud but you can call other people the harshest names ever

4) provoking people like spanishdude are tolerated there while others who are sick and tired of his provoking manners get their posting priviledges restricted.

I really think gc that you should stick with this forum here, i mean people here can also be very harsh some times but most of the time we get our act together, even when no moderator is interfering because th fact that you can speak your mind here is a good one.

You can even criticise docs who are promoted here and they answer you, also they are not attacking Gho or hair multiplication. I dont know for sure but if i had to guess, i would say that docs who are represented here are much more open minded when it comes to HST and hair multiplication in general.

I mean come on, Armani does make a shitload of cash, and he is not answering questions from patients who ask about Ghos HST if hecould get in touch with Gho.

So everyone should think for himself and i have to agree with one poster here who said that the majority doenst even know anything about air transplants etc.

Thats a real fact, for example most people who go to Gho, think that donor regeneration is standard, yes they do because they may found the hasci before anything else. And when you tell them "No thats not a standard, a standard can be scars etc" their faces turn ashen white.

I mean how would you react if you go to a forum and tell everyone "hey i found this HSI and i got dono regrowth thats cool can i go to any other clinic to get the same because i dont know much about clinics at all"

And then someone tells you "Pal you only got lucky the rest of the industry is not like that"

I think i would definitely puke my brains out and get a breakdown because realizing that you are dancing on a thin line between good and bad decision can be devastating

PS: thats also one reason why i would never say to a patient " I told you so" when he had normal transplants before and then went to Gho and is happy and hates himelf for doing it the wrong way around before. Because thats what those patients dont need, they need encouragement for their HST decision

[BMT]

Its amazing that GHo was doing this proceedure in 2004, and people back then were asking the same questions. Can anybody show some good final results from Gho? Not just donor regeneration but first rate final transplant results? The ones on his site dont look world class to me.

I dont like bringing up old posts but this one is a bit of a worry...

http://www.************/hair-restora...-maastrich.htm

[damielmillo]

Ok, so the next time you can do a 1700 or more grafts procedure.
They are giving date for November 2012, if you want to do another treatment you should call quicly...

[gc83uk]

It was only 700 because I was very dubious, I wanted to see if it worked basically before I spent big.

[damielmillo]

Yes, guz, i am very anxious. I told to Marleen of HASCI if they can give me the treatment before MAY and i am now in a last minute list.
I will have 1600 grafts extracted but i want more, so when Dr Gho see my donor area in person we will see if he can extract more than 1600.
My idea is if everything is OK, go for another treatment 9 months later and view my recovery. They say that we can do a lot of procedures by the donor regrowth.
how is your donor? Are you seeing regrowth? You only have 700 grafts extracted, it is very difficult to see.
Why Dr Gho only extract 700 grafts?