Spencer Kobren Interviews Dr. Gary Hitzig - The Future of ACell for Hair Loss

[RichardDawkins]

So your plucked hairs didnt grow for 8 monhs and then they were thinking " Come on guys we have been stuck here for 8 months lets fall out collectively" of course.

Can we get more inormations? What did Cooley say. How come it works to a degree on a scar from a FUT patient?

People have btw different healing abilities, you know and different hair, so maybe it just didnt worked in your case, w dont know if you are a smoker, drug addict or alcohol abuser, we dont know.

Btw Hitzig never said " It doesnt work" where did you pull that one?

Another question, you got plucked hairs for over a year (after 8 months they all vanished) why didnt you come earlier to those forums? People when got mistreated, always come to forums first and not after a podcast where FUT and traditional FUE get a little kick in the face.

And then you are afraid that they (Gho and the hm clique) wont give you back your hair once they discover something? This sounds fishy.

I think you never got a plucked hair transplant in the first place, you only want definitive answers and you hide this behind your masquerad of being a "Victim" thats all.

Cause there a plenty of ways to document your case without showing too much or reveal your identity. Sorry i simply dont blieve guys who come here out of the blue and criticise stuff and tell lies eg " Where did Hitzig say Plucking doesnt work?"

Also its strange, that once Gho is mentioned as "legit" people like you crawl under their rocks, but strangely when they only talk about hair plucking in general with no Gho remarks, NO Crawler can be seen.

Yeah yeah yeah, next time "Anti HM Shills" if you wanna be clever, tr the more subtle route, thanks in advance.

Oh i have one question

" What would you say, hair loss sufferers who want their hair back, SHOULD DO NOW?"

Another thing you did fail to adress, even if Ghos HST wouldnt work, the downtime is way lesser and minimally invasive even compared to FUE, but yeah such MINOR details should be gnored RIGHT

[maxhair]

I think when they say it doesn't work in completely bald scalps they mean the plucking doesn't produce cosmetically significant hairs, i.e. normal thick hairs. The hairs on the bald scalp in Cooley's presentation looked quite thin. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion and say Cooley is/was lying, just probably overconfident in what acell-plucking could do.

But like I said, I have more confidence in the above mentioned listed potential treatments for the reasons stated, rather than in ones that are relying on anecdotal evidence.

I think we all have to be calm and reasonable here.

The problem in my case was not a 'thin' result. It was a zero result. The implanted plucked hairs gradually fell out over 8 months, leaving none. Nothing grew at all. Even the one or two left later into the 8 months, did not grow at all. I have not been scarred though, apart from financially.

If Cooley tested it for a year and a half before his presentation, as claimed, then we would have tested it in bald spots to assertain and isolate how well it worked or not - so there is no excuse, that he didn't know it doesn't work in bald spots - and where did he get the 'thin' result photo in his presentation?

Spencer should corner him on this, and get an answer. Hitzig says it doesn't work. So do I - a Cooley guinea pig. Is Cooley going to explain what Hitzig has wrong when he claims it won't grow in bald spots?

Spencer should not let him slip the question.

[Kampung101]

I think when they say it doesn't work in completely bald scalps they mean the plucking doesn't produce cosmetically significant hairs, i.e. normal thick hairs. The hairs on the bald scalp in Cooley's presentation looked quite thin. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion and say Cooley is/was lying, just probably overconfident in what acell-plucking could do.

But like I said, I have more confidence in the above mentioned listed potential treatments for the reasons stated, rather than in ones that are relying on anecdotal evidence.

I think we all have to be calm and reasonable here.

[maxhair]

Well, it's Cooley I went to, on the basis of his presentation indicating autocloned hair could be grown in bald spots, and indeed showing one guy with a test patch on the upper left of his crown (as viewed from back) - so if the news now is that Acell can't do that, where did that picture come from?

Cooley is more personable than Hitzig, with a better track record - but if he has misled us, as it seems, then he should not get a pass - even from Spencer.

It has damaged Spencer's reputation somewhat, to have been so swept along with it. Spencer let Hitzig off the hook in that last interview - so, I think a bit of a less laizez fair, more rigorous and exacting attitude in interviews with these guys would be more appropriate in the future.

If Spencer is a consumer advocate, and consumers are blowing thousands, then he better get to it in future interviews with these guys, to protect us from puff.

Spencer should be tough enough, that Hitzig and Gho would think twice about selling lies - and Cooley think twice too.

[Kampung101]

With the possibility of really great treatments like Histogen, Aderans and Replicel coming out in the next few years is there really any reason to be excited by what ACell is offering?

Thats pretty much what I'm thinking. Granted, I'm at an early stage of the balding process and have had really good results with medication, so I guess I'm someone that can afford to wait for those potential treatments in the coming years. Histogen, Replicel, Aderans, and Follica are all going through double blind clinical trials, and they have real scientific minds behind them like Costerolis and Hoffman. That makes me much more confident in those treatments.

I don't know about Acell. I'm not really inclined to believe either Hitzig or Rassman. Hitzig has thrown out some hyperbole previously over Acell, and Rassman definitely comes across as having a big ego and quite resistant to potential new treatments that he had no role in discovering. So yeah, like others, I want to see what Cooley and Cole have to say about the results they've achieved (I think Spencer is, or has already done a new interview with Cooley) and if Rassman actually contacted them about how to work with this and how it can be improved. Even though the plucking part doesn't work in completely bald parts of the scalp, if the plucking can work in areas with hair and the acell solution can promote better donor healing and create good donor regeneration, that's still significantly better than what we currently have with hair transplants.

Acell is still a question mark, but I won't write it off just yet.

[Follicle Death Row]

Based on what Hitzig has shown, there is absolutely nothing to be excited about. Unless you get your kicks from donating cash to unscrupulous doctors. He's posted numerous "results" on line and not a single one of them demonstrate much of anything, other than how to make picture results as difficult to interpret as possible. Different lighting, different backgrounds, longer length hair, different hair styles. This is what a layperson with no scientific training might put up for comparison; not a trained physician. I'll leave you to speculate about why he would do that.

I urge everyone to go back and listen to the original interview that Spencer did with Hitzig about Acell. It was filled with nothing but hyperbole and unfounded speculation. At one point he claimed to have a vaccine against baldness, for crying out loud! His claims were and are, incredible. They should've been backed by some "incredible" evidence. But there was, and still to this day, remains none. But, he'll be glad to put you in his chair and charge you 3000$ for the PRP/Acell "vaccine against baldness" treatment.

Patients should be protected from this type of salesmanship.

In the original interview Hitzig said something to the effect of in two years this will be all over (baldness). In another interview, (it may have been a video can't remember exactly) he said that when transplanting 2 hair FUs with the Acell and PRP he was getting 4 hairs growing in the recipient! Yeah right. Time to end this Acell/PRP injection scam. The guy is full of $h!t.

[RichardDawkins]

krewel and useful postings? Haha

[krewel]

Dr.Hitzig & Science? haha..

[RichardDawkins]

So what are we waiting for lets get a Scalp Tattoo then. But i dont understand in this interview they dont talk about Acell PRP Bullshi, they actually talk about regrowth in the donor area.

Also another question, why did.......ah now not this time i asked this question all the time and i feel insane by doing it over and over and over again for every newly registered user.

Hey maxhair, if your plucked hair thing was a failure, shoulsnt Dr Cooley then alrady know about you writing here, just curious.

Criticism adnd being sceptical is good, but strangely those things mostly are always coming from newly regitered user who ONLY came here to warn us, he sames in the german board, there wa a guy who first screamed Gho is a scam and now he backtracked after some deeper digging questions ans said " Hmmm i think i want a second appointment"

Sorry i believe science rather then some newly registered anonymously posters, who well may als be paid by Rassman who knows

[NeedHairASAP]

Gho made it clear to me in person, that he does not want people on these forums going for tests with him, indicating he can not do what he claims regarding splitting hairs and having both grow - and just wants to pick off unsuspecting, unread volunteers.

That is the bad news.

If Gho could do it, there would be a line of people kissing his feet, but there isn't. He is available for HTs, and wanted to book me an appointment in short notice - so there is no great waiting list to get in his chair..

these are quite the claims. it's refreshing to hear some criticism.

[The Alchemist]

With the possibility of really great treatments like Histogen, Aderans and Replicel coming out in the next few years is there really any reason to be excited by what ACell is offering?

Based on what Hitzig has shown, there is absolutely nothing to be excited about. Unless you get your kicks from donating cash to unscrupulous doctors. He's posted numerous "results" on line and not a single one of them demonstrate much of anything, other than how to make picture results as difficult to interpret as possible. Different lighting, different backgrounds, longer length hair, different hair styles. This is what a layperson with no scientific training might put up for comparison; not a trained physician. I'll leave you to speculate about why he would do that.

I urge everyone to go back and listen to the original interview that Spencer did with Hitzig about Acell. It was filled with nothing but hyperbole and unfounded speculation. At one point he claimed to have a vaccine against baldness, for crying out loud! His claims were and are, incredible. They should've been backed by some "incredible" evidence. But there was, and still to this day, remains none. But, he'll be glad to put you in his chair and charge you 3000$ for the PRP/Acell "vaccine against baldness" treatment.

Patients should be protected from this type of salesmanship.

[Dasani]

With the possibility of really great treatments like Histogen, Aderans and Replicel coming out in the next few years is there really any reason to be excited by what ACell is offering?

[Hairman30]

This whole conversation is mixed up. Hitizig did beard plucking (Autocloning) years ago for hair transplantation for patients with limited donor due to previous hair transplant procedures. The procedure was always limited and only for very limited fill ins. Years later when he first started working with ACell he and Dr. Cooley started using ACell for improving scar corrections and Cooley started working with Autocloning with ACell and saw some improvement. The scar correction treatments showed new hairs actually growing where there was once scar with no new hair transplants.

Dr. Hitzig's research expanded to hair multiplication in hair transplants and then enhanced ACell + PRP injections for hair regrowth in thinning areas and to prevent future hair loss. He has also expanded it to improving donor closure with the strip method and has traveled to Europe to test Hyrd-ACell - a mix of ACell + PRP and a aqueous based solution to improve healing and stimulate new hair growth in FUE donor wounds. The initial results are very good and he has been asked back to continue the research.

Dr. Rassman and some on this forum have confused the issues and are not commenting on what Hitzig, Cooley, Niedbalski and Cole are actually focused on, the improvement of current hair transplantation through hair multiplication, improved wound healing in the donor area and new hair growth through injection therapy into balding areas. Their ultimate goal is to see ACell in some form, as a long term treatment for preventing (Vaccinating) future hair loss.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am and online representative of both Dr. Gary Hitzig and Dr. Niedalbaski.

[Follicle Death Row]

If Gho could do it, there would be a line of people kissing his feet, but there isn't. He is available for HTs, and wanted to book me an appointment in short notice - so there.

I read something similiar about another patient the other day and it set alarm bells off in my head. No way is he booked through until April. Sure people cancel but still. If it works he'll be vindicated. If not scalp him apache style. j/k

[maxhair]

COWARD

What a lame excuse, seems to me like you are in the SpanishDude clan.

Hairlos is bad, but Cowards with hair loss who have a big mouth are the worst

Any time anyone tells you to not be a coward, or to be a real man in some sense, it usually involves doing something stupid - so try another channel shitbird.

I was brave enough to have an experimental procedure done, and am brave enough to say that I will allow someone trustworthy to revue the pictures, but not have them published on the internet.

I can tell you now though, there really is nothing to see. It was a 100% fail.

I don't know or care who you are, how many years you've spent on this blog, or what position you're defending, but am telling you out of the kindness of my heart, that Acell autocloning does not work on bald spots, that Hitzig is clearly a squeaky-voiced liar, and that Gho made it clear to me in person, that he does not want people on these forums going for tests with him, indicating he can not do what he claims regarding splitting hairs and having both grow - and just wants to pick off unsuspecting, unread volunteers.

That is the bad news.

If Gho could do it, there would be a line of people kissing his feet, but there isn't. He is available for HTs, and wanted to book me an appointment in short notice - so there is no great waiting list to get in his chair.

To repeat, these guys might hit on something in the future, in which case, they will be deluged with too much work - so I do not want to identify myself to them, in case they decide not to help me in the future - but at the moment - they've got nothing.