Spencer Kobren Interviews Dr. Gary Hitzig - The Future of ACell for Hair Loss

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  • Follicle Death Row
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1058

    #46
    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
    I agree that we shouldn't be attacking new posters or anything, but a lot of these posts here sound very suspicious. Like saying Gho admitted that his methods are B.S. That's absolutely ridiculous! Or attacking Spencer's credibility? That's absolute B.S. too. Man, if every doctor or companies was as devoted as Spencer is to cure hair loss, then we would've had a cure a long time ago. Like I said, some of these posts here are very, very shill-like.
    True. I think it's stating the obvious that the Gho comments are preposterous. I think we can all see that. I tend to just skip over those posts and avoid the flaming wars that ensue. The threads only tend to descend into anarchy. Like that BaldingBackwards poster. I just ignore him completely. He has to be on the biggest wind up of all time.

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    • Follicle Death Row
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1058

      #47
      Originally posted by Kampung101
      Thats pretty much what I'm thinking. Granted, I'm at an early stage of the balding process and have had really good results with medication, so I guess I'm someone that can afford to wait for those potential treatments in the coming years. Histogen, Replicel, Aderans, and Follica are all going through double blind clinical trials, and they have real scientific minds behind them like Costerolis and Hoffman. That makes me much more confident in those treatments.

      I don't know about Acell. I'm not really inclined to believe either Hitzig or Rassman. Hitzig has thrown out some hyperbole previously over Acell, and Rassman definitely comes across as having a big ego and quite resistant to potential new treatments that he had no role in discovering. So yeah, like others, I want to see what Cooley and Cole have to say about the results they've achieved (I think Spencer is, or has already done a new interview with Cooley) and if Rassman actually contacted them about how to work with this and how it can be improved. Even though the plucking part doesn't work in completely bald parts of the scalp, if the plucking can work in areas with hair and the acell solution can promote better donor healing and create good donor regeneration, that's still significantly better than what we currently have with hair transplants.

      Acell is still a question mark, but I won't write it off just yet.
      That's pretty much how I feel about the whole scenario too. Well put.

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      • maxhair
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 97

        #48
        Originally posted by dkayla77
        i'm new to this stuff, and i have to admit, you are starting to sound like a shill.
        I thought Dr Rassman's views were overly pessimistic, and ignored them, but now, having been a little bit misled and ripped off by the outwardly respectable and reputable Cooley (the guy has a lot of industry awards and certificates on his wall), I would say Rassman probably has things about right in terms of predictions for the future - although I hope he's proved overly cautious by quick successes with Replicel, Histogen, Aderans etc - watch out for bald men getting full heads of hair.

        Can Gho do a .6mm FUE? Dunno. Possibly. I hope so. Getting an accurate idea of the success rate of these tiny FUEs will be virtually impossible from Gho though, as I believe, having researched and met him, that he is a habitual liar.

        10 out of 10 for Hitzig butchering feckless volunteers over the years in an informal ongoing clinical trial, but 0 out of 10 for claiming he's got something when he hasn't.

        Dr Cole getting results with Acell?

        I doubt it. Watch out for men getting 15,000 FUEs within a 3 year time frame, and Dr Cole becoming a household name.

        Remember, Hitzig has claimed he could get multiple hairs from a single FUE - I emailed him on this claim and heard nothing back. Fake, fake, fake. Now he's saying Cole is excited about getting one hair from one FUE hole.

        I think Cole has been sucked into Hitzig and Cooley's bullshit stakes, in order to get men in the chair.

        Cole was claiming he can get 97% FUE success, which Spencer rejects, so it would not be the first time Cole has over-egged the pudding.

        Don't believe the hype. Do believe the average or poor density N6 or 7 transformations to N1 hairlines - so that makes zero home runs and counting.

        I salute anyone prepared to experiment on themselves too.

        May a home DIYer discover the cure, then give that info away for free.

        And may this community get a damn site more skeptical, and tell all those quacks out there to go back to the drawing board, because they no longer have the benefit of our doubt - and they're not getting any more of our money until they prove they deserve it.


        And to all the surgeons doing tests, they are tests, so you do not charge.

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        • tbtadmin
          Administrator
          • Sep 2008
          • 524

          #49
          Inaccurate Statement

          Originally posted by maxhair
          Cole was claiming he can get 97% FUE success, which Spencer rejects, so it would not be the first time Cole has over-egged the pudding.
          This is a completely inaccurate statement. Spencer Kobren has never rejected Dr. Cole's personal FUE/ FIT data.

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          • maxhair
            Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 97

            #50
            Spence mentioned in a show that he doesn't care what some FUE guys are claiming, strip is more reliable.

            Cole was the high profile player making the most aggressive claims about FUE matching strip survival rates - so it seemed to be directed at Cole.

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            • RichardDawkins
              Inactive
              • Jan 2011
              • 895

              #51
              Ok seriously this is a shill or SpanishDude because he uses the same tactics, telling lies.

              I know i have harsh language often but this guy here.........no way i can let this slip.

              Also you didnt answer my question, when did you have your procedure with Cooley done?

              No Rassman is not overly pessimistic, he is just an complete asshole who bashed Dr Woods doing FUE and stole FUE later on. The guy who is selling scalp tattoos because he is retiring soon? Are ou saying this guy is da shit? he is just a sack full of shit.

              Yeah Gho is a liar? In the EU where every single cosmetical pocedure done wrong can close down a clinic in a blink of an eye, this guy goes onto television, claims he can do hm only to rip off people?

              Guess what Dr Bazan the faker didnt do advertise this big, nor did he answer simple uestions in interviews, because he knew he was doing jackshit.

              Gho does it n another way he even published a scientific paper ith some guy from a UNIVERSITY, guess what happens with this guy at the university if he would cheat, correct he would lose everything.

              Also how do you explain those regenerated Grafts in this HSI patient? Accident, mishappen or what?

              Why should Cole being sucked into this? He was a very vivid sceptic first he overanalysed almost the entire thing he then got in touch with them and he witnessed benefits, but as he admts NOT as consistent as that he says " A guarantee for all"

              Is this scam behavior? Nope i dont think so, btw why should Cole being sucked into this he has good results and a shitload of patients anyway.

              I give ou an answer, because this kind of HM will be supportive to ARI, Histogen and Replicel stuff. And i doubt that you want to be a FUt clinic in an era of cell solutions.

              15.000 Grafts in 3 years? are you insane? This would equal 5000 extracted grafts and 5000 little recipient holes on your head, this equals 10.000 little holes, how should your body heal correctly.

              Btw another one for you, Gho doent offer his mini test anymore to the majority of patients because he believes in his claims.

              So admit it, you lied to us out of personal motives, let me guess you are pissed because it took em so long and Gho is too expensive.

              Well Sherlock if you try those stunts, then you wont accomplish anything at all.

              So tell us the truth

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              • maxhair
                Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 97

                #52
                Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                Ok seriously this is a shill or SpanishDude because he uses the same tactics, telling lies.

                I know i have harsh language often but this guy here.........no way i can let this slip.

                Also you didnt answer my question, when did you have your procedure with Cooley done?

                No Rassman is not overly pessimistic, he is just an complete asshole who bashed Dr Woods doing FUE and stole FUE later on. The guy who is selling scalp tattoos because he is retiring soon? Are ou saying this guy is da shit? he is just a sack full of shit.

                Yeah Gho is a liar? In the EU where every single cosmetical pocedure done wrong can close down a clinic in a blink of an eye, this guy goes onto television, claims he can do hm only to rip off people?

                Guess what Dr Bazan the faker didnt do advertise this big, nor did he answer simple uestions in interviews, because he knew he was doing jackshit.

                Gho does it n another way he even published a scientific paper ith some guy from a UNIVERSITY, guess what happens with this guy at the university if he would cheat, correct he would lose everything.

                Also how do you explain those regenerated Grafts in this HSI patient? Accident, mishappen or what?

                Why should Cole being sucked into this? He was a very vivid sceptic first he overanalysed almost the entire thing he then got in touch with them and he witnessed benefits, but as he admts NOT as consistent as that he says " A guarantee for all"

                Is this scam behavior? Nope i dont think so, btw why should Cole being sucked into this he has good results and a shitload of patients anyway.

                I give ou an answer, because this kind of HM will be supportive to ARI, Histogen and Replicel stuff. And i doubt that you want to be a FUt clinic in an era of cell solutions.

                15.000 Grafts in 3 years? are you insane? This would equal 5000 extracted grafts and 5000 little recipient holes on your head, this equals 10.000 little holes, how should your body heal correctly.

                Btw another one for you, Gho doent offer his mini test anymore to the majority of patients because he believes in his claims.

                So admit it, you lied to us out of personal motives, let me guess you are pissed because it took em so long and Gho is too expensive.

                Well Sherlock if you try those stunts, then you wont accomplish anything at all.

                So tell us the truth
                Okay, I admit it. I am a big liar. In truth, I had a great transplant with Cooley, had a great meeting with Gho, but he refused to do a small test on me - said he didn't want my money - I think Hitzig is telling the truth, and I think you're a genius (honest!)

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                • dkayla77
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 13

                  #53
                  Originally posted by maxhair
                  Okay, I admit it. I am a big liar. In truth, I had a great transplant with Cooley, had a great meeting with Gho, but he refused to do a small test on me - said he didn't want my money - I think Hitzig is telling the truth, and I think you're a genius (honest!)
                  can you tell us more about your meeting with Gho?

                  thx.

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                  • maxhair
                    Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 97

                    #54
                    Originally posted by dkayla77
                    can you tell us more about your meeting with Gho?

                    thx.
                    Gho is scared of the blogs. He does not want the regulars here to know that his procedure does not currently work as claimed - which is why he's avoiding you like the plague.

                    That's why he picks off unsuspecting people not on these blogs.

                    Imagine for 10 seconds, that he had something. He'd be on this blog, saying 'send your most ****ed up guy, and I'll fix his hair for free'.

                    He wants surgeons to invest E50,000 to learn his allegedly revolutionary game-changing stuff, but he wont invest three days to fix a well known hair loss sufferer on one of these blogs for free. If he did that, he'd get E5,000,000 return in two years of extra business. He won't do 10,000 hairs to make E5,000,000? That's E500 a hair - and he won't do it?

                    He can't do it people.

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                    • RichardDawkins
                      Inactive
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 895

                      #55
                      I hit my face so hard.

                      Thats the whole story you are SpanishDude its clear. Anyway Gho has a lot of Forum users as patients and he even ah forget it, i wont get in hassle at baldtruth with you like i did at hairsite.

                      Your agenda is known to everyone here anyway.

                      Of course Gho told you he is scared of blogs........

                      So tell us then, when was your Cooley plucked hair transplant, in which year?

                      And when did you have the Gho appointment?

                      Come on tell us SpanishDude

                      Right Gho avoids FORUMS thats why he appeared at Spencer Kobrens Show RIGHT? Sorry but i ask again are you retarded. Leave this forum SpanishDude

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                      • maxhair
                        Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 97

                        #56
                        Take the red pill

                        Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                        I hit my face so hard.

                        Thats the whole story you are SpanishDude its clear. Anyway Gho has a lot of Forum users as patients and he even ah forget it, i wont get in hassle at baldtruth with you like i did at hairsite.

                        Your agenda is known to everyone here anyway.
                        Of course Gho told you he is scared of blogs........

                        So tell us then, when was your Cooley plucked hair transplant, in which year?

                        And when did you have the Gho appointment?

                        Come on tell us SpanishDude


                        Right Gho avoids FORUMS thats why he appeared at Spencer Kobrens Show RIGHT? Sorry but i ask again are you retarded. Leave this forum SpanishDude
                        I had Cooley operation 10 months ago, and had Gho appointment 3 months ago.

                        Seriously whoever you are, snap out of it man. Don't be that idiot who refuses to see the woods for the trees. If Gho were legit, he'd be on EVERY TV show. N7 celebs like Bruce Willis, Patrick Stewart, Dr Phil and Elton John etc would be banging down his door.

                        If he could do what he claims, he'd be the only man in the world who could, so would be charging E500 for a consultation - but his diary is empty at times. I saw him at virtually no notice. He said, 'yeah, come along any time this afternoon.' There was no one else around. He looked bored, and under-employed. Think about it man. THINK... ABOUT... IT.

                        Gho is a joker. Meet him and decide for yourself.

                        All I'm doing here is telling you people what I know.

                        Time to hold the HT industry to a higher standard of proof. It's up to you all.

                        Spencer should get Gho to do a live 0.6mm partial extraction, with micro cameras recording it, on a section of scalp we can all track over the months. One day's work - but Gho will never do this because he is a fake.

                        We need to say with one voice to Gho, PROVE IT OR **** OFF.

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                        • RichardDawkins
                          Inactive
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 895

                          #57
                          Yawn i go to sleep shill I will talk to other Gho patients instead who witnessed donor regeneration.

                          You should seek psychological help

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            #58
                            Originally posted by maxhair
                            I had Cooley operation 10 months ago, and had Gho appointment 3 months ago.
                            Wait wait wait … you had just 7 months after your hair transplant in the USA with Cooley (the guy with a lot of industry awards and certificates on his wall) a consultation with the guy Gho in the Netherlands, Europe??

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                            • maxhair
                              Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 97

                              #59
                              Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                              Yawn i go to sleep shill I will talk to other Gho patients instead who witnessed donor regeneration.

                              You should seek psychological help

                              I would need psychological help if I were to believe Gho.

                              He specifically said to me 'You're not from one of the hairloss blogs are you?'

                              He wanted to make sure I wasn't going to tell you people the truth.

                              I said I wanted a full head of hair, and he gave me the line about creating a hairline which was 'age-appropriate'. That is a completely meaningless phrase, from a charlatan, as there are 105 year old N1s, and 20 year old N7s. He is completely full of shit on these regeneration stories.

                              'age-appropriate'? He's in the cosmetic surgery business.

                              Now, if he can get a graft which grows with a 0.6mm punch, then he needs to prove it.

                              I offered myself as a guinea pig for him to prove it, and he declined the offer, instead just wanting me to show up, pay him, then have the op. He did not want to enter into a discussion about how he would prove it, because he has nothing.

                              Imagine you invented a new cheese, which was 10 times tastier than any other cheese, but just as quick and cheap for you to produce, but that was so tasty, you could sell it at a 50% mark up. If you wanted to sell any of it, you'd be in supermarkets, giving away free tasters, so the customer would buy a whole block of the stuff, and so you could establish your product before competitors try to mimic it.

                              In Gho's case, he'd be giving away freebies, with a room full of fee-paying trainee HT people there, taking notes.

                              So anyway RichardDawkins, you say I need psychological help, but on the assumption everyone else reading this isn't mentally retarded, I want you to concentrate for a second.

                              What would Dawkins do?

                              He'd demand evidence.

                              In my opinion, having met the man, Gho is a very unscrupulous liar, and so are Cooley and Hitzig.

                              Imagine an episode of Dragon's Den, where someone makes a pitch for investment for a new invention, but refuses to demonstrate a working prototype. They would last about 25 seconds.

                              Show, don't say.

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                              • NeedHairASAP
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1408

                                #60
                                Originally posted by maxhair
                                I had Cooley operation 10 months ago, and had Gho appointment 3 months ago.

                                Seriously whoever you are, snap out of it man. Don't be that idiot who refuses to see the woods for the trees. If Gho were legit, he'd be on EVERY TV show. N7 celebs like Bruce Willis, Patrick Stewart, Dr Phil and Elton John etc would be banging down his door.

                                If he could do what he claims, he'd be the only man in the world who could, so would be charging E500 for a consultation - but his diary is empty at times. I saw him at virtually no notice. He said, 'yeah, come along any time this afternoon.' There was no one else around. He looked bored, and under-employed. Think about it man. THINK... ABOUT... IT.

                                Gho is a joker. Meet him and decide for yourself.

                                All I'm doing here is telling you people what I know.

                                Time to hold the HT industry to a higher standard of proof. It's up to you all.

                                Spencer should get Gho to do a live 0.6mm partial extraction, with micro cameras recording it, on a section of scalp we can all track over the months. One day's work - but Gho will never do this because he is a fake.

                                We need to say with one voice to Gho, PROVE IT OR **** OFF.


                                he has worked on countless dutch celebrities
                                Dean Saunders won the dutch version of American Idol, gho operated
                                Wesley shneijder is a top tier footballer, gho operated
                                some guy who won the tour de france, gho operated
                                three or four other dutch celebs

                                Gho is not hiding. I think he has a good growth strategy. He isn't a household name so celebs don't know yet. Wayne Rooney has all the money in the world and he went to some random doc that most of us have never heard of...so just because bruce willis hasn't heard of this yet doesn't mean much. Also, how can you see him for twenty minutes and come to the conclusion that every day he is completely under-employed?!



                                I'm teling you its rassman, registered to guerilla advertise and counter the interview.

                                Rassman always calls gho's technique "FUE"
                                Rassman always claims the competition "photoshops"
                                Rassman trashes plucking, often
                                Rassman-esque grammar skills
                                Rassman-esque style
                                Rassman is computer literate and would make a fake account








                                "I would need psychological help if I were to believe Gho.

                                He specifically said to me 'You're not from one of the hairloss blogs are you?"

                                is that why he does so many videos, including scissorsboys blog? and an interview with spencer? and has macrophotography in the journal of derm? is the photography faked?






                                comparing a breakthrough in cosmetic hair surgery that costs thousands to $10 cheese is weak

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