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  • VictimOfDHT
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 747

    #76
    I'm starting to believe in Gho's procedure but I have two questions. Is the price (13000) for sure in dollars and not EU ? Would it be possible for someone to get only a few hundred grafts and pay whatever they charge per graft or is there a minimum amount -of money- they charge regardless of the # of grafts ?? If they don't have a minimum I might go for it. I think because of the extra special CURSE I have (a lot of the transplanted hair keeps falling out) this guy's method is my only hope -if it really works- since I don't have to worry about depleting my donor hair even further.

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    • RichardDawkins
      Inactive
      • Jan 2011
      • 895

      #77
      Its 9400 Euros for 2300 Grafts tops. But consider yourself lucky the Euro lost its value because of EU goverments tring to create a parchute to protect bancrupt states.

      If people from the US wanna go to Gho, well use the current crisis in the EU its cheaper, this time only we europeans have to pay the debt, shit happens.

      Sad to hear that your transplanted hairs fall out.

      Right now ist 12500 Dollars for a tops of 2300 Grafts. Wow the Euro is going down the shitdrain.

      Also if you wanna have a full price scale, you can tke a look here

      But dont forget to include costs for flying

      Scalp hair 50 (test) € 570,-
      Scalp hair < 600 € 3.300,-
      Scalp hair 600 - 700 € 4.400,- € 3.300,-
      Scalp hair 700 - 800 € 4.900,- € 3.675,-
      Scalp hair 800 - 1000 € 5.800,- € 4.350,-
      Scalp hair 1000 - 1200 € 6.950,- € 5.212,-
      Scalp hair 1200 - 1400 € 7.900,- € 5.925,-
      Scalp hair 1400 - 1600 € 8.700,-
      Scalp hair 1600 - 2300*) € 9.400,-

      The second price is if you go for a learner rate which means doctors in training, its 5924 Euros for 1400 Graft tops. I dont know how much in dollar this is actually.

      I dont know what went wrong with your transplants that they fell out but i think it has to do with healing here Gho COULD be a useful alternative.

      I hope i could help you at least a little bit

      Oh and before the usual suspects call me a shill, thats the reason why i marked the word COULD in capital letters because this patient here should first do an appointment to evaluate his hair loss and maybe he can save some of his misplaced grafts as well

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      • Kiwi
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1087

        #78
        Originally posted by RichardDawkins
        Its 9400 Euros for 2300 Grafts tops. But consider yourself lucky the Euro lost its value because of EU goverments tring to create a parchute to protect bancrupt states.

        If people from the US wanna go to Gho, well use the current crisis in the EU its cheaper, this time only we europeans have to pay the debt, shit happens.

        Sad to hear that your transplanted hairs fall out.

        Right now ist 12500 Dollars for a tops of 2300 Grafts. Wow the Euro is going down the shitdrain.

        Also if you wanna have a full price scale, you can tke a look here

        But dont forget to include costs for flying


        Scalp hair 50 (test) € 570,-
        Scalp hair < 600 € 3.300,-
        Scalp hair 600 - 700 € 4.400,- € 3.300,-
        Scalp hair 700 - 800 € 4.900,- € 3.675,-
        Scalp hair 800 - 1000 € 5.800,- € 4.350,-
        Scalp hair 1000 - 1200 € 6.950,- € 5.212,-
        Scalp hair 1200 - 1400 € 7.900,- € 5.925,-
        Scalp hair 1400 - 1600 € 8.700,-
        Scalp hair 1600 - 2300*) € 9.400,-

        The second price is if you go for a learner rate which means doctors in training, its 5924 Euros for 1400 Graft tops. I dont know how much in dollar this is actually.

        I dont know what went wrong with your transplants that they fell out but i think it has to do with healing here Gho COULD be a useful alternative.

        I hope i could help you at least a little bit

        Oh and before the usual suspects call me a shill, thats the reason why i marked the word COULD in capital letters because this patient here should first do an appointment to evaluate his hair loss and maybe he can save some of his misplaced grafts as well
        Maybe Gho could. I don't know. I want both Gho and Histogen to work just as much as the next guy but I kinda want some macro photographic proof before I spend any more money on my hair.

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        • RichardDawkins
          Inactive
          • Jan 2011
          • 895

          #79
          Fair enough, but i hope you understand that i would recommend this patient to get as many informations as possible especially when he is loosing transplanted hair.

          MAYBE Gho can help him with those grafts to save the last remaining ones, i dont know, but one thing is for sure, if you losse your transplanted hair, you can pretty much say that the surgeon ****ed things up or used hair from the wrong parts of the donor and this is something where we all should be a unity instead of attacking each other.

          So my advise is to get as many infos as possible andconsider HST an option.

          Of course i want Histogen to work, but they need a working basis for this, and so far dont get me wrong, even if the Berlin guy is n a pre status for artificial follicles, this will be the future, a database of hair where you can take em when you need them

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          • VictimOfDHT
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 747

            #80
            Originally posted by RichardDawkins
            Its 9400 Euros for 2300 Grafts tops. But consider yourself lucky the Euro lost its value because of EU goverments tring to create a parchute to protect bancrupt states.

            If people from the US wanna go to Gho, well use the current crisis in the EU its cheaper, this time only we europeans have to pay the debt, shit happens.

            Sad to hear that your transplanted hairs fall out.

            Right now ist 12500 Dollars for a tops of 2300 Grafts. Wow the Euro is going down the shitdrain.

            Also if you wanna have a full price scale, you can tke a look here

            But dont forget to include costs for flying

            Scalp hair 50 (test) € 570,-
            Scalp hair < 600 € 3.300,-
            Scalp hair 600 - 700 € 4.400,- € 3.300,-
            Scalp hair 700 - 800 € 4.900,- € 3.675,-
            Scalp hair 800 - 1000 € 5.800,- € 4.350,-
            Scalp hair 1000 - 1200 € 6.950,- € 5.212,-
            Scalp hair 1200 - 1400 € 7.900,- € 5.925,-
            Scalp hair 1400 - 1600 € 8.700,-
            Scalp hair 1600 - 2300*) € 9.400,-

            The second price is if you go for a learner rate which means doctors in training, its 5924 Euros for 1400 Graft tops. I dont know how much in dollar this is actually.

            I dont know what went wrong with your transplants that they fell out but i think it has to do with healing here Gho COULD be a useful alternative.

            I hope i could help you at least a little bit

            Oh and before the usual suspects call me a shill, thats the reason why i marked the word COULD in capital letters because this patient here should first do an appointment to evaluate his hair loss and maybe he can save some of his misplaced grafts as well
            Thanks for the reply, Richard. No, my problem isn't due to a doctor's shitty work. My problem is a special curse from God that he chooses to "bless" some people with to make them even more miserable. It turns out there is a small minority of HT patients who end up losing their transplanted hairs for some reason and even HT doctors don't know why. They say they're rejected by the body. I don't think that's the case because my transplanted hair seems to last a random number of years (1-5) then starts falling out. I'm thinking if it's the body rejecting it then it should fall out right away. So yeah, thank god for this special curse that has cost me 5 ****ing transplants (more than 4000 grafts over the past decade at a cost of more than $20,000 and it's all in the hairline and temples. I'm not going to name my last doctor again (so far been thru 4 doctors) but he's well known around the world and like I said he did do a good job but the hair started falling out again. Now, I'm losing more hair AGAIN in the same area and it's pissing me off more than anything but I'm not gonna let get worse without trying again. So I'm thinking about another small transplant ( a few 100 grafts) but since I know I'll most likely lose those too after a year or god knows when, I was thinking maybe Gho is the way since we can use the same donor area for at least a couple of times -assuming that hair will regenerate again- but I don't know. I don't even know if any doctor would do any more HTs for me knowing that I have this shitty condition but I'm not going to lose my hair sitting down.

            So, what's this test they do at Gho's ? I see it's 570 Euros.

            No body knows how painful and depressing this is. I don't drink or do drugs but I can't take the pain any more and I'm thinking about doing drugs or at least pot now. This is too much to take.

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            • Tinnitus
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 10

              #81
              i went to gho 2 months ago for a hair transplant. 1700 grafts

              ive been keeping it short - 1-2mm

              i think 90 percent of the hair kept growing. the hairs were a bit thinner after 2-3rd week, but now r becoming thicker again.

              i also had very little redness on the received area. - only with exertion or when i was under the sun, it would get a bit redder temporarily.


              - tinnitus

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              • Follicle Death Row
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1058

                #82
                Originally posted by Tinnitus
                i went to gho 2 months ago for a hair transplant. 1700 grafts

                ive been keeping it short - 1-2mm

                i think 90 percent of the hair kept growing. the hairs were a bit thinner after 2-3rd week, but now r becoming thicker again.

                i also had very little redness on the received area. - only with exertion or when i was under the sun, it would get a bit redder temporarily.


                - tinnitus
                Any chance of some pics? How's the donor coming along?

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                • Tinnitus
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 10

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Follicle Death Row
                  Any chance of some pics? How's the donor coming along?
                  i need to get a camera with macro function. i am curious to see how my donor looks myself. i did see hair grow out the little red holes shortly after i had it done, but i dont know if thats because gho cuts his grafts during taking them out due to his small extraction needle or if its regrowth.

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                  • RichardDawkins
                    Inactive
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 895

                    #84
                    Tinnitus, nice to hear your side of the story, but even as a Gho supporter myself i have to ask you for fotos. Also because i am sick of people calling me a shill

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                    • clandestine
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2002

                      #85
                      Dawkins, no one really cares about your over sensationalized posts anymore. Sorry, but that's the truth. Brutal as it may be. Perhaps stop picking fights with randoms on the forum and you might gain a little more credibility. Contribute some constructive posts, etc.

                      Tinnitus, thanks for the share! Excited to see how your donor develops, perhaps see if you can get some macro photography of any kind. Borrowing a higher quality cam from a friend, or maybe some other way. Anyway, thanks for posting.

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                      • RichardDawkins
                        Inactive
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 895

                        #86
                        Why are you starting a new fight? We were all just cooled down already. pffffff

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          #87
                          Originally posted by VictimOfDHT
                          Thanks for the reply, Richard. No, my problem isn't due to a doctor's shitty work. My problem is a special curse from God that he chooses to "bless" some people with to make them even more miserable. It turns out there is a small minority of HT patients who end up losing their transplanted hairs for some reason and even HT doctors don't know why. They say they're rejected by the body. I don't think that's the case because my transplanted hair seems to last a random number of years (1-5) then starts falling out. I'm thinking if it's the body rejecting it then it should fall out right away. So yeah, thank god for this special curse that has cost me 5 ****ing transplants (more than 4000 grafts over the past decade at a cost of more than $20,000 and it's all in the hairline and temples. I'm not going to name my last doctor again (so far been thru 4 doctors) but he's well known around the world and like I said he did do a good job but the hair started falling out again. Now, I'm losing more hair AGAIN in the same area and it's pissing me off more than anything but I'm not gonna let get worse without trying again. So I'm thinking about another small transplant ( a few 100 grafts) but since I know I'll most likely lose those too after a year or god knows when, I was thinking maybe Gho is the way since we can use the same donor area for at least a couple of times -assuming that hair will regenerate again- but I don't know. I don't even know if any doctor would do any more HTs for me knowing that I have this shitty condition but I'm not going to lose my hair sitting down.

                          So, what's this test they do at Gho's ? I see it's 570 Euros.

                          No body knows how painful and depressing this is. I don't drink or do drugs but I can't take the pain any more and I'm thinking about doing drugs or at least pot now. This is too much to take.
                          Shit dude I'm sorry to hear about that. I think you should ask Gho for an online consultation - that couldn't reall hurt.

                          Do you know what the condition is called or have you met anybody else who has experienced this?

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                          • RichardDawkins
                            Inactive
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 895

                            #88
                            I agree, maybe its really connected to healing or something and maybe he can help. Its really sad to hear this because those are wasted Grafts

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                            • VictimOfDHT
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 747

                              #89
                              Thanks, Kiwi and Richard. Apparently, this problem (transplanted hair falling out) exists although I was told it's rare. I myself didn't know about it until a year after my last HT when the doctor told me I had it -since I was experiencing considerable loss in density, yet again. Doing a search online I found at least a handful of similar cases of men whose transplanted hair started falling out sometime down the road. I even posted a question a few months back on dr. Rassman's site -you can find my question there- and he acknowledged such a problem did exist but even he couldn't tell me what causes the hair to fall out. I know for sure I do not have "diffused thinning", as the back and sides of my head are thick, and the loss is rapid and starts all of a sudden after a certain time and its NOT gradual.
                              He also said something about Telogen Effluvium but I don't know if that's what I have. This (TE) could've been the condition my last doctor mentioned but I can't remember.

                              Yeah, more than 4000 grafts and more than $20,000 are wasted but most importantly more than 13 years of my life are wasted too -because of this curse- and worse of all is the possibility that the rest of my life is going to be wasted now if there is nothing I can do to fix this. My battle with hair loss has completely ruined my life. I could never face life with my hair thinning and the fear of hair loss had had a complete grip on me way before it even started. How the hell am I gonna do if I lose it ???

                              I'm really scared that dr. Gho -if I decide to go with him- might refuse to take me as a patient. If that happens it would be better for me to just go dig my grave and lay in it and just wait to die. No way I can go on in life if I lose my hair.

                              BTW, how can I find dr. Gho's site ? I've seen it before but I can't find it now.

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                              • RichardDawkins
                                Inactive
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 895

                                #90
                                hasci.com

                                i say make an appointment this whole thing just sounds sad

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