NicePost@ NeedHair
Tesla is indeed the forgotten wizard.
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and again, both this and the above are from a poster, "james bond" sometime in 2010
» Where are the photos of full restauration? And why Gho himself is
» balding?
Gho could easily disguise his limited balding with traditional FUE if it were important to him. The fact that he doesn't shows he's quite mentally healthy and has high self esteem, despite his slightly imperfect hair.
» And these claims are against experience reported by bverotti from
» ProHairClinic in Belgium. Bverotti says that he receives Gho's patients,
» and every time he sees white dots in the donor area without any sign of
» regeneration. He says that it looks like normal FUE. And he says that
» this is so, even with new Gho's technique (HST).
One of these guys is lying. I'm more inclined to believe the guy whose claims are backed up by peer-reviewed scientific research with famous co-authors than I am a HT clinic that uses photo evidence to prove its claims. That is a very old and tired way of luring in patients, and most informed prospective patients know better than to trust it. Speaking of photo evidence, why hasn't bverotti posted photos of Gho's ex-patients in order to prove his claims? I suspect its because he knows he could be sued out of existence if it turned out his claims were false.
» Just imagine: Gho is a legit doctor, a pioneer, he has
» invented something new, all the other doctors know that Gho is correct, but
» they are so evil that invent lies to discredit him!! Do you think this is
» credible? Gho has a small clinic, and represents little competition to
» other HT doctors. It is ridiculous to think that all the HT doctors would
» organize a conspiration against Gho if he was legit.
Well, a similar phenomenon occurred a hundred years ago when Nikola Tesla invented radio. Keep in mind, Tesla had the patents, and evil men conspired against him in the name of making money. They teach you in school that Marconi invented radio, despite the supreme court having ruled Tesla's patents proved he is the real inventor of radio. Edison, Marconi, and Morgan made a fortune from tying the case up in court long enough for Tesla to die and never receive a penny off his invention. Once he was dead, they owed him nothing for patent infringement.
Gho's HST technique is patent protected. If it turns out it even provides a guaranteed minimum 50% regrowth in the donor, regular HT businesses will not be able to compete and go out of business. I used to think other clinics were not in danger because Gho had seemingly poor HT placement technique, and his technology was extremely immature. However, his work on Joling shows that he has probably caught up to the best clinics in the world as far as placement technique, and his latest research study appears to indicate he has nailed the donor and recipient regrowth. This is shaping up to be an extremely interesting situation.
If this study holds (published peer reviewed studies are typically duplicated by other researchers in order to prove or disprove the claims), other clinics are in big trouble if they can't figure out a way around the patent.
One thing is for sure. Publishing this study has let the cat out of the bag, and the truth will come out sooner rather than later. Any HT clinic in the world can easily perform a small scale study in order to test the donor regrowth claims and publish the outcome.
Gho's publication of this study is visual enough to all that it could be the catalyst of the biggest advance in HT in 50 years. The world will not sit by idly and ignore these claims without testing them first hand. We will soon know the truth, but expect many malicious attacks and potential phony studies in the meantime. The key is to not trust studies and claims not published in peer reviewed journals.
This thing could get ugly, because big money is at stake. Gho is essentially claiming to have cured baldness by solving the donor limitation problem. Trust me when I say the ISHRS will be all over this. No longer can claims be made that Gho is hiding behind a small clinic in the middle of nowhere selling fake HM. Those claims are dead. His claims are fully out in the open and fully exposed to the entire scientific community, and he knows as well as anyone that he is currently at war with the ISHRS. They have many hair scientists in their organization, and they will test his claims. He would not have published this study if he did not feel prepared to take on the entire HT world. In addition, the journal would not publish if they didn't believe it to be factual. It's the mouse against the giant, and Gho looks as though he has prepared himself for the battle.
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» It is curious, that Gho says that 100% recipient-site hairs survive after
» 1 year, and 100% donor hairs survive at 3 months, but he doesn't say if
» these donor hairs survive at 1 year. If Gho has not evaluated the donor
» regeneration long term, then this study is of little value.
» You say that after 10 months, donor hairs remodel themselves and are
» totally recovered (Dr. Kim study). I would like to see if this is the case
» for Gho's technique.
The transected donor follicles are not a problem. Kim showed they fully remodel into fully functioning follicles complete with new sebaceous glands. Kim's problem was he removed the follicles from the skin, transected them, and reimplanted them. He could not get them to regrow consistently.
Dr. Gho claimed years ago that he overcame the consistency problem by transecting them in the skin. Thus, they did not undergo the same level of trauma as complete removal. An Italian HT clinic put his claims to the test and found that 72% of the follicles transected at the lower third (old FM technique) regrew. However, they could not get the upper 2/3rds recipient grafts to consistently produce hair and abandoned the technique.
It's important to note, that they soaked the grafts in saline solution prior to implanting them. Swinehart showed years earlier that soaking upper 2/3rds follicles in saline solution prior to implantation led to inconsistent regeneration. Only a portion of the follicles regenerated and grew hair. Much of this hair was thinner than normal.
Gho claims to have solved the problem by soaking the grafts in HM culture medium prior to implantation instead of saline solution. Saline solution causes cell death. This is a well-known phenomenon. In contrast, hair growth factors cause hair follicles to regenerate. In fact, these growth factors are what make up Histogen's very promising hair regrowth product. Even without the stem cells they can cause follicles to remodel themselves and grow healthy hair. This is because baldness is caused by a breakdown in the signaling system that causes the hair follicle to remodel itself after the resting phase. The growth factors help to revitalize the signaling environment. When you add in the activated stem cells that result from transecting the follicles, you have a master signaling system that causes consistent remodeling of the transected follicles.
This is not some far fetched whacked out science. Each time your hair rests, it must fully remodel the lower third of the follicle prior to being able to grow hair again. Gho's technique capitalizes on this completely natural phenomenon. The key is to provide the proper growth factors to allow it to work consistently. For that, you need specialized knowledge in stem cell science. 99.9% of HT doctors lack this specialized understanding. That's why they will be able to easily reproduce the donor regrowth but won't be able to get the recipient to grow. Just like the Italian HT clinic that tried to duplicate Gho's work, they will not be able to offer a commercially viable technique without the use of Gho's patented proprietary growth formulation.
Donor regrowth is real, and it has been independently verified. Soon it will be verified in a much more visual manner than the Italian study. The big question is how consistent Gho's donor regrowth is? His latest published study is the most exciting thing to come along in the HT field in many, many years. He claims 95+% regrowth, which is effectively a cure. Soon enough the claim will either be verified or disproven. Knowing this, why would Gho and his famous co-author lie and destroy their careers?
Publishing this study would be the death of their careers, reputations, and livelihoods if it were false. Are others suggesting in order to get a few extra profits over the next 2-year period before their careers are over, that they somehow can afford to throw away a lifetime worth of income? Game theory suggests otherwise. This is shaping up to be the most important advance in HT technology in the last 50 years.
Dr. Woods took a lot of heat from other HT surgeons when he pioneered the Wood's technique. Guys like Cole gave him a lot of respect and learned enough from him to develop their own version of the technique and become among the top HT surgeons in the world. Others, damaged Wood's reputation before eventually developing their own versions of the technique never giving Woods the credit he deserves. That's typical of how these advances are accepted. To put things in prospective, Gho's advance is far, far beyond Woods. Expect the rhetoric to be much greater.
Gho told me he would eventually publish HST. It took him about 4 years to do it, but now the thing is fully out in public view, and the next step is in the hands of the scientific community.Leave a comment:
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reposting someone elses post from hairsite
SD:
Years ago, I posted an independent study of Dr. Gho's old FM technique that showed 70% of the donor hairs regrow if transected in the skin. However, in my interview with Dr. Gho, he stated the regrowth was greatly improved with his newer longitudinal transection technique.
Despite recipient growth being the most difficult aspect to figure out, Gho's recipient growth has always been on par with HT, because he soaks the transected grafts in HM culture medium (essentially the same stuff Histogen injects to rejuvinate balding follicles).
As shown by the independent study, the donor regrowth is not a problem. The difficult part of this technique is to get the recipient follicles to regenerate and grow hair. Dr. Gho has figured it out, and he has been treating an increasing number of Dutch celebrities.
One thing to keep in mind is the co-author of this study is a professor at a prestigious Dutch university and is one of the most well-respected dermatologists in the world as well as one of the most published researchers.
This is a prestigious peer-reviewed journal. Gho's co-author would not publish fake data in this journal. The claimed hair counts are accurate.
Anybody who is currently enrolled in college has access to this article through their library's online subscription service. There must be at least one person at this site who is currently enrolled in school and can give us the details? The most important thing here is the statistical details so we can get an idea of the consistency achievable. From the abstract, it appears Gho has managed to get nearly perfect consistency in the donor and recipient sites.
BTW, the rejuvinated donor hairs last forever, but it takes about a year for them to fully reform into fully functional hair follicles (as shown in Dr. Kim's study). For this reason, you should not take donor follicles from the same area for at least 10 months.
The only thing that has really been holding the procedure back is Gho's placement technique. However, the latest results I've seen appear to indicate he's resolved this issue as well.
Perhaps this thing has finally come of age.Leave a comment:
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Had a look at the site again and they are looking to setup partnerships with other doctors worldwide. It seems to be that potential partners apply to HSI. In doing so and setting up a HSI clinic they get the rights to practice HST. Or so it seems. Thoughts?Leave a comment:
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that ymar only had a bit over 2000 grafts
. for 2000 grafts it's an impressive result.
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look at feridini under norwood IV, than click on Ymar
does this look ANY different than results from HST patients in similar situations? ANY DIFFERENT WHAT SO EVER?
everyone says Gho's hairlines suck..... jooling, scissorboy, and wesley are the only patients he's posted that even had the option of reconstructing a hairline... a lot of the guys on the HASCI website are like Ymar and really have no hairline to reconstruct... although they will start too after a few HST procedures!
and I can't say it enough... take 30 seconds out of your day and email a doctor of your choice asking if he offers HST or when they will be offering it...and as much as it looks like i work for Gho lol.... I do not.... I just want HST to be cheaper and more available so I can take advantage of it...Leave a comment:
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no way man! thats not art!!!!
this is art!!!
- go to patient #7, stephen, under the nw2 section....
- he had the same number of grafts as Wesley
who looks better?
he doesnt even look like he had a transplant he looks like he just went tanning
all I'm saying is... email your favorite surgeon (maybe feridini) and ask them if they offer HST... tell them you would make an appointment tomorrow if they offered it... seriously anyone even remotely interested in HST should take 30 seconds out of their day and send an emailLeave a comment:
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no one would ever know he had a hair transplant. its just so natural!Leave a comment:
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Can you post links for any of this?
I haven't read all of this yet regrowhair com/hair-loss-blog/autocloning-hair-restoration-with-acell-matristem/
But from the pics it seems has only grown back when there was transection. Which is the principle behind Gho's technique, correct?
"I did not observe new hair follicles but did observe what appeared to be enhanced regrowth from transected follicles as well as reduced scarring. This suggests that ACell will not create new hair but will help regenerate hair if healthy follicle primers are present."Leave a comment:
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I stand by my earlier post that my 1300 FUE results look very similar to Dr. Gho's as well as most transplants of that number. I only posted those up because my hair has a similar character to the soccer guy (i.e. fine).
People see these best case scenario transplants and assume that all transplants turn out that way. The reality is the majority of them don't look that good, even from "real" doctors. I went to Dr. Wolf, who is highly regarded, was at the time considered one of the best FUE docs, and links directly to this site from his clinic's page.
Am I saying its the best looking transplant in the world? No. Could it have been a little better. Yeah, probably. But that wasn't the point I was trying to make. Sure we could go to a "real" doc, get a very aesthetically pleasing result, and that's cool. But if Gho is able to make donor regenerate and his results are on par with the majority of FUE surgeons, then how is HST not the way to go? Have a "real" doc do you hairline and whorl, and have Gho fill in the rest. Or better yet, someone prove or disprove this thing, and either get it out to more surgeons or let it die and move on to the next scam.Leave a comment:
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yes thats what I'm getting from the reading too. I think that when they scrape the dermal papillae from the follicles and collect them that there is the possibility of ending with more hairs than you started with depending on how they allocate the cells with the needle.... but as far as engineering more cells... I hope that they are but don't see that in what they give us on the websiteLeave a comment:
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