Bioregenerative Sciences

[UK_]

I sent Cheryl at BioR an email this morning inquiring about the price increase. Will not be able to continue with the treatment at that price.

Even if it works? HM wont be cheap aswel you know lol -

- If this treatment works for anyone I will eat my woolly hat.

[kphilly]

Even if it works? HM wont be cheap aswel you know lol -

- If this treatment works for anyone I will eat my woolly hat.

Trust me, I know HM won't be cheap, but if and when it is available, I will dip into my 401k and/or get equity out of my house to get HALF of my locks back. And as far as the treatment, there's a possibility that it won't work, but I won't know unless I've tried it. Not the type to speculate.

[UK_]

Not the type to speculate.

...Lol, neither am I:

I just did an “IronMan-Quick-Research” (IMQR) and now I have a simple QUESTION:
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Author: CyGenX Inc.

Hair growth is maintained through a cyclic process that includes a periodic stem-cell-dependent regeneration of hair follicles. The hair cycle consists of three defined stages: growth (anagen), followed by regression (catagen) and rest (telogen). Growth of a new hair requires reentry into anagen, a process involving activation of multipotent epithelial stem cells residing in a specialized part of the follicle outer root sheath (ORS) known as the bulge. Activating signals emanate from adjacent mesenchymal cells (dermal papilla), directing epithelial stem cells to migrate and differentiate to regenerate the hair bulb, the structure from which a new hair will emerge. Multiple signaling pathways, including Wnts, Sonic hedgehog (Shh), and TGF-beta family members have been shown to promote anagen initiation.

Source: http://youcangrowhair.com/QA3.html
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Author: Dr. Greg Maguire

Hair growth is maintained through a cyclic process that includes a periodic stem-cell-dependent regeneration of hair follicles. The hair cycle consists of three defined stages: growth (anagen), followed by regression (catagen) and rest (telogen). Growth of a new hair requires reentry into anagen, a process involving activation of multipotent epithelial stem cells residing in a specialized part of the follicle outer root sheath (ORS) known as the bulge. Activating signals emanate from adjacent mesenchymal cells (dermal papilla), directing epithelial stem cells to migrate and differentiate to regenerate the hair bulb, the structure from which a new hair will emerge. Multiple signaling pathways, including Wnts, Sonic hedgehog (Shh), and TGF-beta family members have been shown to promote anagen initiation.

Source: http://www.articlesbase.com/hair-los...s-1397874.html
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Author: Beaudoin GM (et al)

Hair is maintained through a cyclic process that includes periodic regeneration of hair follicles in a stem-cell-dependent manner. The hair cycle consists of three defined stages: growth (anagen), followed by regression (catagen) and rest (telogen) (Fig. 1A) (1). Growth of a new hair requires reentry into anagen, a process involving activation of multipotent epithelial stem cells residing in a specialized part of the follicle outer root sheath (ORS) known as the bulge (Fig. 1B) (2–4). Activating signals emanate from adjacent mesenchymal cells (dermal papilla), directing epithelial stem cells to migrate and differentiate to regenerate the hair bulb (Fig. 1B), the structure from which a new hair will emerge (2–5). Multiple signaling pathways, including Wnts, Sonic hedgehog (Shh), and TGF-β family members have been shown to promote anagen initiation, yet the exact mechanism by which hair follicles regenerate is not clear (5–7).

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1253615/
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Q : Where is the DIFFERENCE between the 3 excerpts/abstracts above

[Cory]

It's encouraging that after 3 weeks hair seems thicker so will we find out if this a scam soon.

[Bocaj]

Haven't joined another hair loss forum in ages...but found an excuse to do so...

I read the entire thread but didn't search the other threads...so maybe I've missed it or just haven't read the thread(s) saying this...but the Dr. behind this product, Dr. Maguire...was part of that A&G (which is now AQ Skin Solutions) company that is also the CyGenX that is also numerous other brands/companies(all the same products....different labels).

Dr. Maguire..for whatever reason...left A&G/AQ and started up his own company/product line. I wondered if maybe it was just another way to yet again sell more product- the same A&G products under another name. But I was told Bioregenerative Sciences uses Stem Cell tech...AQ does not. Bio has some other products the others do not have as well. It is strange though that the price just happens to be the same. Notice AQ has his in those glass vials that are a pain to use/apply...Dr. M has his in a spray bottle. Of course if they were packaged exactly the same then there'd be a problem 'splaining that.

So anyway..there's the connection between the 2 if it hasn't already been pointed out.

Jacob

[UK_]

Haven't joined another hair loss forum in ages...but found an excuse to do so...

I read the entire thread but didn't search the other threads...so maybe I've missed it or just haven't read the thread(s) saying this...but the Dr. behind this product, Dr. Maguire...was part of that A&G (which is now AQ Skin Solutions) company that is also the CyGenX that is also numerous other brands/companies(all the same products....different labels).

Dr. Maguire..for whatever reason...left A&G/AQ and started up his own company/product line. I wondered if maybe it was just another way to yet again sell more product- the same A&G products under another name. But I was told Bioregenerative Sciences uses Stem Cell tech...AQ does not. Bio has some other products the others do not have as well. It is strange though that the price just happens to be the same. Notice AQ has his in those glass vials that are a pain to use/apply...Dr. M has his in a spray bottle. Of course if they were packaged exactly the same then there'd be a problem 'splaining that.

So anyway..there's the connection between the 2 if it hasn't already been pointed out.

Jacob

Same shit different bottle, CyGenX was all "stem cell yadda yadda" also.

[Bocaj]

Well either they don't use "stem cell tech" and Bio is calling them on it...or both companies(by both I mean Bio and then CyGenX/AQ/all the others) use such tech and Bio is just trying to sound different.

I guess it'd clear things up a bit if Bio's ingredients can be listed/posted..if they haven't already been.

You can see Dr. Maguire's name on the A&G/AQ sites by looking at the cached pages here(can see 'em just reading what's under each link too): http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&h...w=1280&bih=637

I forgot to mention also that CyGenX/A&Q/AQ's products are packaged exactly like Caregens..which led some of us to believe they were just getting the products from them.

[UK_]

Well either they don't use "stem cell tech" and Bio is calling them on it...or both companies(by both I mean Bio and then CyGenX/AQ/all the others) use such tech and Bio is just trying to sound different.

I guess it'd clear things up a bit if Bio's ingredients can be listed/posted..if they haven't already been.

They just dont look like a company that cured hair loss lol.

It's another CyGenX flop scam.

Lets wait for the results, but Iron_Mans "quick research" [above] is enough to signal 'BULLSHIT PRODUCT' to me.

Sayonara!!!!!!

[johnnyboots]

by the way i e-mailed them on the 300 price,they said it was an error and it is still 150.they said to order by phone so that thier is no confusion.

[share2die]

by the way i e-mailed them on the 300 price,they said it was an error and it is still 150.they said to order by phone so that thier is no confusion.

Is it worth a try Johnyboots .

I am seriously thinking to try this stuff

[johnnyboots]

Is it worth a try Johnyboots .

I am seriously thinking to try this stuff

i really don't know yet,i will finih the bottle and i will give a honest review.

[quinnmodel]

i really don't know yet, we will finish the treatment and i will some feedback.

Not Sure if Anyone else is trying the formula for males.

Our Skin/hair salon is one of the testers for the male formula.

It will be three weeks in 3-4 days.

Again still too early to really give any kind of end result.

One thing we are doing is needling prior to dosing.

This really powers up any topical on the skin /scalp.

This also accelerates the process as well.

I am not sure if already we are seeing any difference or not.

If anything I feel there is very short fuzz type of hair already appearing.

Not sure yet if this will turn into terminal hair or not, but time will tell.

Wil report back in a couple more weeks.

[UK_]

Not Sure if Anyone else is trying the formula for males.

Our Skin/hair salon is one of the testers for the male formula.

It will be three weeks in 3-4 days.

Again still too early to really give any kind of end result.

One thing we are doing is needling prior to dosing.

This really powers up any topical on the skin /scalp.

This also accelerates the process as well.

I am not sure if already we are seeing any difference or not.

If anything I feel there is very short fuzz type of hair already appearing.

Not sure yet if this will turn into terminal hair or not, but time will tell.

Wil report back in a couple more weeks.

Why are you needling prior to dosing? Does this not go against the requirements of BRS's "trial"?... Does a trial in this context not dictate that it must be trialled in the same fashion as it is to be used by the consumer?

Where is your clinic? Address/location, have you before/after pictures?

Is this an official trial?

Will/Have any of BRS's studies feature in any medical journal articles? Do you have any of their past studies? If so could you send us all a link?

You feel there is short fuzz hair?.... Okay [lol], are you conducting hair counts? Macrophotographic assessments? You know, like the professionals do it? (Sorry again Iron_Man, you're right, I think we should just get McDonalds employees to run trials for hair loss treatments).

[share2die]

i really don't know yet,i will finih the bottle and i will give a honest review.

I am so lost Hope this shit works .

[johnnyboots]

i am using the women's formula{which they claim works on men }and i was not told about any needling.