CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

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  • burtandernie
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1563

    Originally posted by lilpauly
    hi man its in the clincal trials. http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02279823


    i talked to some1 from cosmo last year and he mentioned it was going to be a gel.
    Ah okay so its this recent trial they were doing they said that.

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    • lilpauly
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1084

      Originally posted by burtandernie
      Ah okay so its this recent trial they were doing they said that.
      Yes man they conclude in summer

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      • inbrugge
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 244

        i see what you mean about the cosmo trial but ionto in general, you don't think it has a lot of potential? you can guarantee direct delivery so you can use to much lower amounts of application and dosage meaning very little side effects. imagine topical dut with no side effects.

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        • lifelonglearning
          Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 69

          Is their anyone currently using CB? If so can you state your source , vehicle and experience using it

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          • chongmet
            Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 90

            Originally posted by hellouser
            Nobody has any method of verifying the results or lack thereof. Everything everyone has done so far has basically been just a shot in the dark. I'm not even fully convinced that the CB people are buying either from Iron Dragon, Kane or elsewhere is 100% real, I have my doubts.
            So.We are in late 2015. Have you tried CB anyhow? I really want to give it a shot, but for a proper period of time, Like 1 year. Have you heard about someone who used it? Is the vehicle really an issue?

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            • burtandernie
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1563

              Doesnt CB phase 2 trials finish this coming month november? Seeing some results with a good topical vehicle I wonder how well it ends up working. There is plenty of speculation out there that its too weak, or whatever but results are bigger than words

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              • givemehairs
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 2

                will this anti androgenic have less sides then dutas? Iḿ developing puffy nippels, I really can drop my dutas yet.

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                • ShookOnes
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 209

                  Originally posted by givemehairs
                  will this anti androgenic have less sides then dutas? Iḿ developing puffy nippels, I really can drop my dutas yet.
                  its topical, so yes.

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                  • burtandernie
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1563

                    In theory this will have minimal sides especially compared to current stuff. It needs to be a reasonable cost, strong enough, and related to that a good vehicle so it gets where it needs to. This could end up safe enough to just take long before you ever lose any hair so prevention will be much easier since lots of people delay doing anything because of the risk associated with a life long internal drug.
                    I hope its strong though because you need some mighty powerful AA action to get good results like castration levels to actually prevent MPB. Hopefully it stops a lot of T as well as DHT.

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                    • rdawg
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 996

                      any kind of DUT or FIN replacement is welcome in my eyes, I dont get any major sides from DUT but it's the kind of thing you dont want to be taking your entire life(it does mess with my libido the day after, but nothing major after that).

                      We need something safe with the same if not better maintenance affects that DUT has.

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                      • burtandernie
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1563

                        Originally posted by rdawg
                        any kind of DUT or FIN replacement is welcome in my eyes, I dont get any major sides from DUT but it's the kind of thing you dont want to be taking your entire life(it does mess with my libido the day after, but nothing major after that).

                        We need something safe with the same if not better maintenance affects that DUT has.
                        I agree. My hope is with CB since its actively being worked on, but many others have come and gone. There was RU, ascj 9, and others. I mean Ascj 9 was similar to CB and it has sat there without an owner for like 10 years. Could have been out by now if it worked. Companies just dont see the money or benefit I guess.

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                        • ShookOnes
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 209

                          Originally posted by burtandernie
                          In theory this will have minimal sides especially compared to current stuff. It needs to be a reasonable cost, strong enough, and related to that a good vehicle so it gets where it needs to. This could end up safe enough to just take long before you ever lose any hair so prevention will be much easier since lots of people delay doing anything because of the risk associated with a life long internal drug.
                          I hope its strong though because you need some mighty powerful AA action to get good results like castration levels to actually prevent MPB. Hopefully it stops a lot of T as well as DHT.

                          You want sides worse than fin it seems

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                          • burtandernie
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1563

                            CB doesnt cause any major known sides because its a receptor antagonist not a systemic enzyme inhibitor. Its an ideal AA it competes with T and DHT while in theory rendered harmless once it hits blood. Its theory because its not fully studied so its all guessing as usual. We wont know for years anyway but phase 2 ended in november this year. It could end up having strong sides and it might not. No point in guessing but I think its chances are good its safer than what exists now and hopefully as effective

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                            • Dench57
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 176

                              The whole point of CB is they're designing it as a "side-free" receptor antagonist. It degrades into a harmless metabolite once it hits the blood stream, meaning no systemic side effects (which can happen with RU).

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                              • gchr
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2015
                                • 11

                                any updates? where to get

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