CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

[finalcut]

Swoop and Feartheloss, do you guys think a vehicle like neogenic would work with CB?

[LMS]

I posted this on another forum because people asked questions in relation to CB-03-01, many found it helpful so;



This is really true. For anyone thinking this will be the magical "thing", sorry CB-03-01 isn't going to be that. The effectiveness is probably going to be around the same as finasteride is, hopefully without the side effects. It will definitely not be better than something like dutasteride in terms of effectiveness.

Crown regrowth is cute but enough people show extremely good regrowth of the crown with finasteride (eventually coupled with minoxidil).

Sorry for being the "hope-crusher" again guys, but gotta stay objective here .

Nonetheless it will be still great if it does display a better side effect profile. Although somebody already showed me literature that the HTPA axis was altered in some subjects and I believe this is at a concentration of 1%. AFAIK they should be done with their data collection soon.

There's other treatments I'm more excited for that i'm sure you know of swooping.

But should those treatments not work CB would be my fall back plan, anti androgens were very effective for me both RU and dut (dut insanely). Unfortunately both gave me unbearable sides. So should CB act as an antiadrogen without sides for me all I'd need is a 2000-2500 hair transplant to mt temples similar to yours, and I'd be "cured".

I think real question is not if CB is effective as an antiadrogen, the question is what sort of side effects does it have?

Then there is the question of price of course. Though $60 a gram though not ideal is certainly doable for me. RU pricing would be the shiznit

[burtandernie]

The preliminary study they did in rats said CB was about twice as strong as finasteride. Also unlike fin/dut this competes with both T and DHT something that fin or dut dont do since they actually increase your T. Ive never been convinced that T plays absolutely no role at all in MPB. Its the most abundant male hormone by far, and its an androgen even if its weaker it still has some affinity for receptors.

[jamesst11]

well O.K... What is this magical "private forum" and who in their right mind would chose to withhold such a product from the general population of AGA sufferers?

[d0072]

@Feartheloss any information in regards to the serum you're using? link?

[potato1987]

Where can we buy it and when it will it be released?

[doke]

I used seti for 2 months and it stopped shedding completely. Didn't have enough to use it long enough to really judge efficacy. Then i started CB...it took about 4 and a half months before I started to see regrowth but i knew it was coming because I shed a bunch of hair. I started using 5% 2x a day in the custom liquid vehicle that the private forum sells. I don't know what the vehicle is made of, nor have I used CB in another vehicle but it's working for me so I'm pleased. Lately I've been using about 3.5%-4% 2x a day and it's still working well. I'm sure the quality vehicle has something to do with that.

SD I don't think the forum moderators here allow members to tell each other about other sites? hellouser is a member there though maybe he can help you get in.

I pay $150 a gram for CB.

Holy cow that's a lot more per gram than say ru and with no before and after pics its an expensive gamble.

[Westonci]

Holy cow that's a lot more per gram than say ru and with no before and after pics its an expensive gamble.

@Feartheloss can you PM me the link to the private forum. Im desperate to try something that works other than propecia or minox.

[doke]

RU58841 is stronger antiandrogen than cb that's why kane does not offer it as yet also the cosmo trials state that it needs to be a 5% cream for topical use.

[Swooping]

Swoop and Feartheloss, do you guys think a vehicle like neogenic would work with CB?

Perfectly fine, as long as you are able to dissolve the CB into the vehicle.

Concentration is important. Cosmo is running 5%.

Pound for pound RU58841 is probably stronger than CB-03-01 but that is a rough estimation on the literature provided.

[rambo007]

FearTheLoss, I'm dying to see pictures of your regrowth, are you planning on posting something?

I think that one thing about CB should be noted - besides being an anti-androgen it also has anti-inflammatory effect, from what I recall. We could also benefit from that.

[finalcut]

Perfectly fine, as long as you are able to dissolve the CB into the vehicle.

Concentration is important. Cosmo is running 5%.

Pound for pound RU58841 is probably stronger than CB-03-01 but that is a rough estimation on the literature provided.

Thx for answering

[halloaa]

How long is 1g going to last? How much would running CB cost each month?

[potato1987]

reply from an email I sent today....

I am responding to your request for information. CB-03-01 is undergoing Phase 3 studies for acne in US and EU. We expect to complete the Phase 3 program for US registration end of 2017 and expect approval in US late 2018/early 2019 depending on FDA review timeline.

Regards

Louise M. Dube, PhD
Global Director R&D
Cassiopea SpA
Mobile: 847-302-7336

[HairBeWithYou]

Just bought some lipogaine, wondering if that would be an OK vehicle for CB? I'm new to the whole CB thing. Looking to do CB 5% 2x/day + lipogaine to see if I get any results and I would be happy to post progress pictures.