CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

[hellouser]

This might be a rediculous question. But if CB already works miraculously with iontopherorsisisis or whatever... why the **** cant we just like... do that? get treatments with that?

Like.. idk. Can't they make a machine for home use?? Idk.. tell me why im dumb

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

[FearTheLoss]

You don't know any of this, nor do I think it's even accurate. CB has only just begun preclinical trials for AA(clinical trials take 8 years). I spoke to them a while back and they said that if the acne version proves safe, then it might take a couple years off the testing time for AA. still looking at 5 years or so. Also, they were pretty vehement that the acne version will do nothing for AA. They said the concentration is different and the vehicle is totally different. Which means that we will still be at the same place with it as we are now, until they come out with the aa version (if it works and they ever do). Lotta ifs here, and no way it comes to market that soon. They just filed the IND, and you can't go around saying it's like "rgaine and fin on steroids" when all we have to back that up is one little trial that used iontophoresis, which we can't use anyway. Anyhow a lot of the time these initial trials don't mean squat. RU and other compounds had great initial trials and then failed. Not trying to be negative or say that it won't be a great drug, it might be. But let's stop getting people all hyped up, especially with these bogus timelines.

This is a complete lie. I talked to them less than a month ago and they stated they were already underway with phase II clinical testing for alopecia. You're so negative that your own pessimistic attitude is obscuring your ability to look at facts.

[Phatalis]

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

Thanks hell. youre such an awesome poster.

[Phatalis]

The machine costs so much, that if you had the money for it just to save your hair, you probably wouldn't care about being bald.

Idk. I googled and they make some. Are these machines not the right ones? they were like 500+ pounds or something

[hellouser]

Idk. I googled and they make some. Are these machines not the right ones? they were like 500+ pounds or something

They used hydro electrophoresis... very different from the cheap run of the mill iontophoresis device.

[ShookOnes]

They used hydro electrophoresis... very different from the cheap run of the mill iontophoresis device.

we can't afford those to be able to use CB 03 01. I doubt Cosmo will be able to produce a product that's comparable to hydro electro in topical form, that would take so much time to go through FDA... not to mention the sure genius of converting what a lab machine does to a cream, lol. is this the reason why people using their homemade vehicles have been failing? Not trying to be too pessimistic, I just discovered this CB thread after 2 years of lurking haha..

[hellouser]

we can't afford those to be able to use CB 03 01. I doubt Cosmo will be able to produce a product that's comparable to hydro electro in topical form, that would take so much time to go through FDA... not to mention the sure genius of converting what a lab machine does to a cream, lol. is this the reason why people using their homemade vehicles have been failing? Not trying to be too pessimistic, I just discovered this CB thread after 2 years of lurking haha..

That, or perhaps the CB everyone's been using is fake. I don't have the answers.

[Phatalis]

Just out of raw curiosity again.. how much are those around.. a rough estimate? it'd be hilarious if somehow we did a "crowd funding" thing and got like a community machine for different areas and delivered CB ourselves lmfao.

Just joking.

[Phatalis]

welp, i need to bridge the gap until CB works or doesnt.

Right now I'm about to try propecia.. but im so ****ing scared.

I'm looking at Hells RU guide and about to try it out.

[ShookOnes]

would probably be a lot cheaper to 3D print the machine

welp, i need to bridge the gap until CB works or doesnt.

Right now I'm about to try propecia.. but im so ****ing scared.

I'm looking at Hells RU guide and about to try it out.

are you a diffuser? and take it 3x a week, that's what im doing

[Phatalis]

Yeah. diffuse. but i havent had much loss yet. i had a GHO HST for hairline. and now everything else is very slowly starting to go. it JUST started. you cant tell yet but its coming.

[Phatalis]

before HST I was a nw3 juts cause my hairline went back. i hid it well enough tho

[Phatalis]

take RU or Prop 3x week?

[sdsurfin]

This is a complete lie. I talked to them less than a month ago and they stated they were already underway with phase II clinical testing for alopecia. You're so negative that your own pessimistic attitude is obscuring your ability to look at facts.

Are you sure, I think thats for acne.... If not, well that's encouraging. Those must be european trials then, because as someone just posted, they are just barely filing an IND in the states in the first half of 2014 for alopecia. A lot of conflicting information. Would be great if someone could clear it all up. Last time I talked to cosmo they were filing an IND for alopecia this year. that means a lot of years to come. Even if it came five years from now that would be great, but I remain skeptical due to the lack of results from users here, and also from past results of other anti androgenic topicals. Hopefully it will be a great drug. I also highly doubt that it won't have side effects, but hopefully they won't be of the brain/testicle killing variety. I could deal with a lot of things, but not those.

[ShookOnes]

Yeah. diffuse. but i havent had much loss yet. i had a GHO HST for hairline. and now everything else is very slowly starting to go. it JUST started. you cant tell yet but its coming.

in 2 years from a NW 0, almost perfect hairline with a slightly broader hairline/forehead than her: http://www.yeshairstyles.com/wp-cont...vie-awards.jpg

into this: (just uploaded for ya) : http://imgur.com/GSVye7o


I grew back the entire crown with fin in 1.5 years. my temples and the front hairline took a hit but... if CB takes more than a year, you're going to suffer greatly. you'll lose all the hair on the top/temples and only the hair you got from the transplant will be left. diffusers have it worst. people like hellrouser complain a lot but the small percent of us who see a future NW7 at 17 have it worst.

I'm hoping I can get pilofocus and then CB 03 forever, but that's riding A LOT that CB will be perfect as i fantasize it will be