CB-03-01 - new antiandrogenic

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  • deuce
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 209

    I think they release results at their quarterly report. I am pretty sure it is at the end of this month. Man we really need this soon. Especially now that it does not look like there will be a full blown cure for a while.

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    • TravisB
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 188

      It better not fail, because if it fails we're ****ed.

      It's our only chance for a better treatment in the near future.

      The good thing is that CB-03-01 comes from well estabilished company - Cosmo Pharmaceuticals. They already managed to succesfully release several drugs on the market.

      Also, CB will be licensed worldwide to another big pharma company - Valeant, so it's likely that Valeant knows that it works so they bought the rights and are pumping cash into research.

      This is the latest statement about CB-03-01 from Cosmo (from March 27th 2014):

      CB-03-01
      Together with Intrepid Therapeutics we initiated the dose escalating phase II
      trial for acne. The trial is progressing as planned and is expected to end in the
      first half of 2014 with the end of phase III meeting scheduled late in the second
      half.

      During 2013 we completed additional formulation and stability tests for
      CB-03-01 lotion for the treatment of alopecia. In late Q4 we had a pre IND meeting with the FDA with no additional requests being filed by the regulator. The proof of concept trial is scheduled to be started in the first half of 2014.
      They will end (or have already ended) Phase II acne trials in H1 2014, and will probably start phase III in H2 2014, or 2015. So I think we can expect CB for acne on the market in 2017-2018. I wonder if acne cream will work for MPB?

      Also, they plan to start (or have already started) Proof of Concept (also known as Phase I/IIa I believe) trial for alopecia in H1 2014. They say that they will be testing lotion CB in lotion for alopecia, so they already have some vehicle for it.

      So if everything goes well, I think we'll have acne version on the shelves in 2017-2018, and MPB version 2-3 years later (or faster if CB will prove to be safe for acne, and maybe they will be able to speed up the process).

      So 2020-2021 is probably when we'll have CB for MPB.

      Well, I know that 6-7 years is not that near at all, but it's still better than to wait decades for promised "cures".

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      • Allowme
        Junior Member
        • May 2014
        • 9

        I can't hold off any longer. I am going to go with 5% cb once a week. Does anyone have a recommendation for a vehicle? How harsh is oleyl? I'm thinking of 9:1 oleyl and pg. Also, should I mention that I am going use cb to my doctor? Will I be ridiculed and forced to be on propecia instead?

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        • Seuxin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 223

          Hello,


          5% once a week ? It's a bad idea....
          You need to use 5% / Day.

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          • Allowme
            Junior Member
            • May 2014
            • 9

            Originally posted by Seuxin
            Hello,


            5% once a week ? It's a bad idea....
            You need to use 5% / Day.
            As far as I know, cosmo study showed cb is good for a week? Are you suggesting daily usuage because cosmo used iontophoresis? But isn't cosmo also developing topical cb that you only have to use once a week? I don't know what vehicle cosmo is using, but I doubt efficacy is so far off from the study. Perhaps twice a week? I know nothing of chemistry though. I cant afford daily use of cb 5%. In that case I will have to try ru instead. Please let me know what you guys think.

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            • lilpauly
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1084

              Cosmo is giving a update in a week, right now I would not purchase cb because if the expense , ha e u considered find and Minox?

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              • Allowme
                Junior Member
                • May 2014
                • 9

                Originally posted by lilpauly
                Cosmo is giving a update in a week, right now I would not purchase cb because if the expense , ha e u considered find and Minox?
                I could hold off for another week I suppose. I feel iffy about fin and minox though. The whole systemic thing and minox's effect on the heart.

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                • lilpauly
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1084

                  Originally posted by Allowme
                  I could hold off for another week I suppose. I feel iffy about fin and minox though. The whole systemic thing and minox's effect on the heart.
                  Don't be so foolish , jump on fin and Minox first

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                  • Allowme
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 9

                    Originally posted by lilpauly
                    Don't be so foolish , jump on fin and Minox first
                    I am wary of minox due to family history. Some of those studies on minox and the heart sound worrisome. And it also sounds as though minox gains hair cosmetically not actually combatting androgen alopecia. I can't tell if I am being irrational or not due to sudden of hair loss. I am more convinced of trying cb than fin. Sorry for straying away from topic. All your inputs are appreciated. I spent so much tine reading through the forum I am having hard time digesting the info and decide what is the best course of action.

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                    • deuce
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 209

                      My advice if you are worried about fin would see a cardiologist. Preferably someone who is familiar with your family history, and talk to him about minoxidil for you. As for the fin goes all you can do is try it. More people do not get sides than those who do.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Good news:

                        ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT01631474
                        Study Title: A Phase 2 Dose Escalating Study to Evaluate the Safety and Efficacy of CB-03-01 Cream in Subjects With Facial Acne Vulgaris
                        First Received: June 27, 2012
                        Last Updated: May 29, 2014

                        Source:



                        Looks like Phase II trials are done.

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                        • breakbot
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 101

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Good news:

                          ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT01631474
                          Study Title: A Phase 2 Dose Escalating Study to Evaluate the Safety and Efficacy of CB-03-01 Cream in Subjects With Facial Acne Vulgaris
                          First Received: June 27, 2012
                          Last Updated: May 29, 2014

                          Source:



                          Looks like Phase II trials are done.
                          How long does phase 3 lasts?

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by breakbot
                            How long does phase 3 lasts?
                            God knows.... but couldn't this stuff hit the market already in Asia? I'd buy the stuff by the cases...

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                            • breakbot
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 101

                              Originally posted by hellouser
                              God knows.... but couldn't this stuff hit the market already in Asia? I'd buy the stuff by the cases...

                              Finally some good news, i hope that it'll work somehow even the acne version.
                              If we could find out the vehicle they use....

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                              • hgs1989
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 164

                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                God knows.... but couldn't this stuff hit the market already in Asia? I'd buy the stuff by the cases...

                                I contacted replicel about early release in asia due to new rules by japan. bottom line is replicel expects to release their product early in asia. I cant think of a reason why cb won't be there sooner, not to mention others. evry body will be cashing in there. I really hope the west catches up. pretty sure europe will, but the US is a whole different story.if it becomes profitable in japan, big companies here will be influencing the FDA to do the same.

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