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  • yan
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 156

    Originally posted by hellouser
    Group buys would be necessary to bring the price down.

    But I think the 5% number is just a safety measure much like finasteride; its not necessary to use it at 5mg, 1mg shows the same efficacy.
    Exactly my thoughts. They pursue the best possible results with 5%.
    Its maybe like 23% regrowth with 1% compared to 25% regrowth with 5%. (just examples)

    If you are happy with your current hair, you might be able to use 1% CB twice a week or something like that, just to maintain.

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    • tdo
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 30

      Ive been using Kane's CB form III for around a month and half now.

      Ive switched between vehicles, first using KB, PG/Oleyl, and finally now to ethanol/pg/oleyl. PG/Oleyl did not burn or irritate my scalp but it left huge white flakes.

      Before using CB, I was seeing around 10-15 hairs while showering. Now I am seeing around 5-10 or less.

      I cant say Ive seen any visible improvement but my hair hairloss is minimal so its hard to judge. I have to also note that I am not sure if I am really balding. Ive seen several IAHRS docs and only 1 out of 4 said I was balding, so I am not sure whats going on or who to believe.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        Originally posted by tdo
        Ive been using Kane's CB form III for around a month and half now.

        Ive switched between vehicles, first using KB, PG/Oleyl, and finally now to ethanol/pg/oleyl. PG/Oleyl did not burn or irritate my scalp but it left huge white flakes.

        Before using CB, I was seeing around 10-15 hairs while showering. Now I am seeing around 5-10 or less.

        I cant say Ive seen any visible improvement but my hair hairloss is minimal so its hard to judge. I have to also note that I am not sure if I am really balding. Ive seen several IAHRS docs and only 1 out of 4 said I was balding, so I am not sure whats going on or who to believe.
        Before CB, were you using anything else? Fin? RU? 10-15 hairs while showering is quite a low number. If youre now seeing 5-10 less, that means you typically seeing 5-10 hairs in the shower. Thats a pretty significantly low number.

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        • tdo
          Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 30

          Originally posted by hellouser
          Before CB, were you using anything else? Fin? RU? 10-15 hairs while showering is quite a low number. If youre now seeing 5-10 less, that means you typically seeing 5-10 hairs in the shower. Thats a pretty significantly low number.
          Hell,

          I meant that I am now seeing around 5-10 hairs while showering whereas before I was seeing 10-15.

          Ive never been on anything before CB.

          Like I said in my previous post, most IAHRS docs say I am not balding while Dr. Rassman said I am. He performed a "miniaturization" test and found no area of my scalp with miniaturized hair. He followed up with a bulk test. The bulk test showed that an area of my crown had slightly less density so he concluded I was balding very slowly therefore I had no miniaturized hair. Ive had two miniaturization test done 9 months apart and still no miniaturization so I dont know what to say....

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            Originally posted by tdo
            Hell,

            I meant that I am now seeing around 5-10 hairs while showering whereas before I was seeing 10-15.

            Ive never been on anything before CB.
            Jesus, youre lucky. I'm shedding 20+ hairs while showering.

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            • simba
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 103

              Originally posted by yan
              Cortexolone 17alpha propionate 1g Form III from Kane: 200 dollar

              How long will it last?

              1ml 1% daily = 100 days = 2 dollar / day
              2ml 1% daily = 50 days = 4 dollar / day

              1ml 5% daily = 20 days = 10 dollar / day
              2ml 5% daily = 10 days = 20 dollar / day

              CB is going to test 5% anhydrous solution. So lets assume you have to cover your whole scalp. That costs you 20 dollar / day. Wow, so damn expensive!

              And this is only the price for CB, the price for the vehicle is not included... But I guess 1% could give you also good results if applied with the right vehicle.
              Isn't cb meant to be a once weekly topical?

              1ml 1% weekly = 100 weeks = 28cents/day, not bad

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by simba
                Isn't cb meant to be a once weekly topical?

                1ml 1% weekly = 100 weeks = 28cents/day, not bad
                I think I did read somewhere about that.... all I have on hand is this:



                NOTE: Just got confirmation, it was once WEEKLY but it was using iontophoresis. I'd love to get my hands on an iontophoresis device that can do it on the SCALP.

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                • yan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 156

                  Originally posted by simba
                  Isn't cb meant to be a once weekly topical?

                  1ml 1% weekly = 100 weeks = 28cents/day, not bad
                  They tested it once or twice a week with iontophoresis. But iontophoresis is far more powerful than a "normal" vehicle, so I assume you have to use it more frequently.

                  They apply CB daily for acne, who knows why...

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                  • yan
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 156

                    Originally posted by hellouser

                    NOTE: Just got confirmation, it was once WEEKLY but it was using iontophoresis. I'd love to get my hands on an iontophoresis device that can do it on the SCALP.
                    One thing is for sure, if you get your hands on an iontophoresis device, you will see dramatic improvement! Thats a proven thing.

                    CB via iontophoresis is really really powerful. Nearly 50% increase in follicular density (n/cm2) in only like 2 months! Thats freaking awesome.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by yan
                      One thing is for sure, if you get your hands on an iontophoresis device, you will see dramatic improvement! Thats a proven thing.

                      CB via iontophoresis is really really powerful. Nearly 50% increase in follicular density (n/cm2) in only like 2 months! Thats freaking awesome.
                      Where can we get a proper iontophoresis device?

                      All I can find is this:







                      And other similar ones on ebay, which I've heard are garbage.

                      But even if theyre not, how do we use an iontophoresis? Where does the CB go?

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                      • hiilikeyourbeard
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 138

                        the price on this stuff needs to go down. jesus christ

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                        • lilpauly
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1084

                          Yes the price must come down its to high. 2 years ago mp treatments had it for 320 per gram so it has come down lol

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                          • yan
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 156

                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            To be honest with you, I have no idea... :P

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                            • Conpecia
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 904

                              @staythick dude you've been negative as **** the past couple months, no idea what's up.

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                              • yan
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 156

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