Why are we so adverse to FUE?

[Dimoxynil]

Same as with FUE:

- Develop an infinite list of disadvantages and excuses
- Remain bald
- Keep on complaining about being bald and how we don't have solutions

I've seen you advocate SMP quite a lot on other forums. Have you ever seen it in real life ?

[jamesst11]

Third world? No. As well trained and with the same resources and access to the very latest equipment, protocols, and education as the US? No way. There's a reason why the world's wealthy come to the US when they need life-saving treatments. The UK health system just went on strike for God's sake lol.



Oh, well you saw a movie by a biased, silly filmmaker, so you must have an excellent idea of what the US healthcare system is like.

I've lived abroad and have had experience with a few Euro health systems, and they don't hold a candle to the US. The US university system and medical education is far and away the best in the world - again, there's a reason why the world's wealthy send their children to the US for university and graduate education. There isn't a country that can compare to the number of medical advances and patents that come from the US. Even a cursory review of the number of US medical device makers and pharmas prove this. Simply put, you get what you pay for, and while you may pay more in the US, you get more.

Pointless argument. I have lived in the U.S. my entire life and, no, the healthcare here is not worth bragging about. Don't get me wrong, I love this place, but we have a TON of shit to sort out. The Governor of my own state is being held responsible for poisoning an entire cities water supply. We may elect Donald f*cking Trump as president?!?! (at least the combover will be cool then). Look at the next generation too. I mean JUSTIN BIEBER is their primary role model. F*ck it, I am probably moving to Canada. and don't give me any shit like "'MERICA, you done better be proud or you is a terrorist". It's just the way it is.. We've had our chance here and f*cked it up horribly. My family is here and that's why I stay.
My ranting and raving aside...I would fly to Turkey in a heartbeat and get FUE with Koray Erdogon over anyone in the US. Why would anyone go anywhere else? Amazing, consistent results and natural looking hairlines AND it's cheap as hell.

[fred970]

I've seen you advocate SMP quite a lot on other forums. Have you ever seen it in real life ?

Once, it was badly done, but when I pointed it to my friends, they were all like "oh come on, no one would have tattoo their head! he's just shaved!"

So yeah, even if you have a very shitty SMP, people outside the world of hair loss will still believe you're just shaving your head.

I would only recommend the temporary type with someone who has been trained with Milena Lardi, and only after having had a FUE.

[jamesst11]

Once, it was badly done, but when I pointed it to my friends, they were all like "oh come on, no one would have tattoo their head! he's just shaved!"

So yeah, even if you have a very shitty SMP, people outside the world of hair loss will still believe you're just shaving your head.

I would only recommend the temporary type with someone who has been trained with Milena Lardi, and only after having had a FUE.

How exactly does the temporary SMP work? I assume the ink only goes so deep, so as the cells slough off the epidermis, it fades? Does it begin to change in color in time? How long does it last?

[inferiorfollicles]

What's the best that can be accomplished with a diffusing NW 3 (no bald spot) by the very best North American HT surgeon?

[fred970]

Anyway, what can we learn from topics such as this one? Some people just want to remain miserable, no matter what solutions we have.

We can imagine that future medications against hair loss will have a 0.001% risk of causing liver failure, and the same people will be like:

"I can't take it, can't risk my liver guys, be right back, complaining about my slick NW5 while doing nothing about it!"

Some people just want to stay miserable. No solution will ever be good enough for them. It's as simple as that.

[Swooping]

What's the best that can be accomplished with a diffusing NW 3 (no bald spot) by the very best North American HT surgeon?

Well that could be easily fixed. If it's not too severe a HT isn't really recommended because of transection though.

[rdawg]

What's the best that can be accomplished with a diffusing NW 3 (no bald spot) by the very best North American HT surgeon?

depends how old you are, I've been on DUT/FIN for a few years now and it has slowed my loss immensley, but I am very young and the loss is still(very slowly) progessing, getting a transplant at this point wouldn't do much and i'd have to get 2-3.

Im in the same position NW3 Diffuse, but i'm only 24, HT wont help me much or I'll have to spend 20-25K just to maintain an NW2 hairline!

[tedwuji]

This thread is pretty interesting and I am glad to read it because it is so applicable to my situation. I am Norwood 2or3 (2 hairline with mild/moderate thinning in the Nor3 region). I am stabilized with Finasteride 5 years strong and it's the only thing I use, nothing else. I am early 30s though, so still young enough to have significant loss in my future or if Fin stops working, etc. Would love to restore density in my frontal region and maybe lower my hairline down 2cm. Always have had a high hairline with dark brown hair and super white skin, so its very noticeable due to contrast. Anyways, I have seen IAHRS surgeons and they have said I have good donor density and scalp laxity, so I am def a candidate. Just dunno if i wanna risk it, just as everyone here is saying. What if its botched? What if i get shock loss in the miniaturized recipient area? I still have a lot of native hair in the Norwood 2-3 area that I don't want to lose to the trauma of surgery. I am making decent money and I could afford it. I am a great candidate because high supply and low demand and also my age is above 30 which is what spencer and Joe tillman say to wait for, assuming you do in fact want one.

But WHAT ABOUT SCARS and RISKS?? Should I just count my blessings of being a norwood 2.5 after my recent 32nd birthday and 5 years of finasteride stability and wait for HSC and other pipeline headlines?

[fred970]

You want a hair loss solution without any risk? You're going to have to travel to parallel universes where medical solutions don't have any downside.

Scars will never be visible to the naked eye if your surgeon uses a 0.8 mm punch, anyone who says otherwise is lying.

In my opinion, you can wait, but if you ever reach NW3.5, you should go for it. Being NW2.5 or being NW1 is the same.

[Swooping]

You want a hair loss solution without any risk? You're going to have to travel to parallel universes where medical solutions don't have any downside.

Scars will never be visible to the naked eye if your surgeon uses a 0.8 mm punch, anyone who says otherwise is lying.

In my opinion, you can wait, but if you ever reach NW3.5, you should go for it. Being NW2.5 or being NW1 is the same.

How does your scarring look like Fred?

Mine is practically invisible, and my extractions were performed with a 0.7mm punch. Really nice.

Gotta shave it all of to really take a good look at it though, but it's looking promising .

[Hicks]

I had ACELL into the extraction sites. Will be interesting to see what shaven looks like. I'm going for a second pass but not till December. I'll post photos but again it's way off.
I'm visiting Vories in a few weeks. Defiantly getting 3 opinions sense I am diffused and donor management is key.

[fred970]

How does your scarring look like Fred?

Mine is practically invisible, and my extractions were performed with a 0.7mm punch. Really nice.

Gotta shave it all of to really take a good look at it though, but it's looking promising .

Like this: http://users.skynet.be/v-site2/fue/6-months-donor.jpg

[Swooping]

Like this: http://users.skynet.be/v-site2/fue/6-months-donor.jpg

Damn, that's very neat. Thanks.

[tedwuji]

You want a hair loss solution without any risk? You're going to have to travel to parallel universes where medical solutions don't have any downside.

Scars will never be visible to the naked eye if your surgeon uses a 0.8 mm punch, anyone who says otherwise is lying.

In my opinion, you can wait, but if you ever reach NW3.5, you should go for it. Being NW2.5 or being NW1 is the same.

Of course there are risks. I stated that there are risks in my post.

My post was saying that my dilemma is: "are those risks worth it given i am a Nor2.5?"