Why are we so adverse to FUE?

[Handbeezy]

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just think its funny that people always think a miracle is always around the corner, "in the next few years."

people have been saying that for years

There has also been a bunch of encouraging developments in recent years, some new approaches have actually grown new hair and companies are pushing ahead with further trials.

[NSix]

Simple: It's expensive, it doesn't produce a full head of hair, and there's a chance you can be disfigured. A fourth issue is this: will previous surgeries interfere with future new protocols (particularly the wounding protocols like Follica's)? Surgeries cause scaring - can the new protocols in the pipeline (CB, HSC, etc.) grow hair in that scared tissue, or does scaring make hair growth impossible? Like Spencer says: Once you're cut, you're cut.

If I were a NW 4 or worse, I'd get an HT; there's nothing coming out anytime soon that's going to grow a NW4 into a NW 2 or better. But if I were a NW3 or less, I wouldn't get an HT in the near future; there are too many promising treatments coming out in the next three to five years to risk a surgery.

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just think its funny that people always think a miracle is always around the corner, "in the next few years."

people have been saying that for years

[tedwuji]

Because a lot of FUSS surgeons tell you its an inferior procedure, the grafts are more fragile and the yield is up to 30% less, i've had only FUE so I can speak from my own experience the growth has been anything but amazing, doctors like Feller have an anti-FUE agenda they push hard and often times you see people simply regurgitating what he says verbatim, the truth is you can have amazing results with either procedure, does FUE have draw backs yes the price is one of them and you have to do more surgeries to get the same amount of grafts, the whole lifetime grafts is a load of bologne its logical fallacy based on a supposed "universal" donor zone, the truth is everyone's universal zone is different, there are man who die norwood 3 in their 90's so the hair outside of their "universal" zone was permanent, if they'd had a transplant and used this hair it would last a lifetime, in the same token there are men like Steve Ballmer who's hair is so sensitive to DHT that his temples have nearly completed receded and he has only a thin whispy ring of hair, the hair taken from a large strip would not be permanent on his case.

Yo look at my pics, what do you think?

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/22983-Treatment-Protocol

[tedwuji]

Because a lot of FUSS surgeons tell you its an inferior procedure, the grafts are more fragile and the yield is up to 30% less, i've had only FUE so I can speak from my own experience the growth has been anything but amazing, doctors like Feller have an anti-FUE agenda they push hard and often times you see people simply regurgitating what he says verbatim, the truth is you can have amazing results with either procedure, does FUE have draw backs yes the price is one of them and you have to do more surgeries to get the same amount of grafts, the whole lifetime grafts is a load of bologne its logical fallacy based on a supposed "universal" donor zone, the truth is everyone's universal zone is different, there are man who die norwood 3 in their 90's so the hair outside of their "universal" zone was permanent, if they'd had a transplant and used this hair it would last a lifetime, in the same token there are men like Steve Ballmer who's hair is so sensitive to DHT that his temples have nearly completed receded and he has only a thin whispy ring of hair, the hair taken from a large strip would not be permanent on his case.

Yo look at my pics, what do you think?

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/22983-Treatment-Protocol

[tedwuji]

Because a lot of FUSS surgeons tell you its an inferior procedure, the grafts are more fragile and the yield is up to 30% less, i've had only FUE so I can speak from my own experience the growth has been anything but amazing, doctors like Feller have an anti-FUE agenda they push hard and often times you see people simply regurgitating what he says verbatim, the truth is you can have amazing results with either procedure, does FUE have draw backs yes the price is one of them and you have to do more surgeries to get the same amount of grafts, the whole lifetime grafts is a load of bologne its logical fallacy based on a supposed "universal" donor zone, the truth is everyone's universal zone is different, there are man who die norwood 3 in their 90's so the hair outside of their "universal" zone was permanent, if they'd had a transplant and used this hair it would last a lifetime, in the same token there are men like Steve Ballmer who's hair is so sensitive to DHT that his temples have nearly completed receded and he has only a thin whispy ring of hair, the hair taken from a large strip would not be permanent on his case.

Imma strip out and then scour the zone w/ FUE in a nearly beligrent manner to get my 10k grafts lifetime while popping Fin daily from a Pez dispenser. Play2win

[HTsoon]

Because a lot of FUSS surgeons tell you its an inferior procedure, the grafts are more fragile and the yield is up to 30% less, i've had only FUE so I can speak from my own experience the growth has been anything but amazing, doctors like Feller have an anti-FUE agenda they push hard and often times you see people simply regurgitating what he says verbatim, the truth is you can have amazing results with either procedure, does FUE have draw backs yes the price is one of them and you have to do more surgeries to get the same amount of grafts, the whole lifetime grafts is a load of bologne its logical fallacy based on a supposed "universal" donor zone, the truth is everyone's universal zone is different, there are man who die norwood 3 in their 90's so the hair outside of their "universal" zone was permanent, if they'd had a transplant and used this hair it would last a lifetime, in the same token there are men like Steve Ballmer who's hair is so sensitive to DHT that his temples have nearly completed receded and he has only a thin whispy ring of hair, the hair taken from a large strip would not be permanent on his case.

[tedwuji]

It won't matter assuming the transplant turns out good and stays good. It's the people who eventually lose enough to just want to give up on the whole thing that then have the problem with a scar that stops them shaving down completely. Which is a way better look than the monk-style bald on top with hair at the back and sides unshaved.

Im 32 w/ mild loss & 5 years stable on fin

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

You havent addressed the hair coming from the sweet spot.

Or more fatty tissue protecting the dermal papillae, which decreases transection rates.

Also it's a fact you can get more grafts lifetime if you do FUT first followed by FUE after being stripped out.

My question to you is why would u pay MORE money to get LESS hair. It appears to me to be a mathematical fallacy.

If i get a hair transplant i will not shave my head. Scar wont matta

It won't matter assuming the transplant turns out good and stays good. It's the people who eventually lose enough to just want to give up on the whole thing that then have the problem with a scar that stops them shaving down completely. Which is a way better look than the monk-style bald on top with hair at the back and sides unshaved.

[tedwuji]

FUT is a thing of the past in my opinion. It's an old school way to do hair transplants since FUE has been introduced. Not sure what your definition of a "thin line" is, but every FUT scar I have ever seen in person has been absolutely horrifying and shows even with hair at a decent length in the back. Obviously, this may not be the case for every FUT, but to have a smile on the back of your head regardless of how "thin" you think it may be to me is not smart. FUE is not as noticeable and could be very undetectable even when shaved with the right doc.

Why would you pay to have a smile on the back of your head for life? What if you need to shave down? Prepare to get looks from others as if you're a creature from another planet. It's the reality of it, I have seen it to many times and also the reactions of others when they see it.

I wouldn't do it. Terrible decision IMHO.

You havent addressed the hair coming from the sweet spot.

Or more fatty tissue protecting the dermal papillae, which decreases transection rates.

Also it's a fact you can get more grafts lifetime if you do FUT first followed by FUE after being stripped out.

My question to you is why would u pay MORE money to get LESS hair. It appears to me to be a mathematical fallacy.

If i get a hair transplant i will not shave my head. Scar wont matta

[StayThick]

If i never shave down, the strip scar is pencil thin (seen those regulary from top docs like H&W) and i am getting all my grafts from the sweet spot the question as to why i would not get strip becomes equally compelling... no?

FUT is a thing of the past in my opinion. It's an old school way to do hair transplants since FUE has been introduced. Not sure what your definition of a "thin line" is, but every FUT scar I have ever seen in person has been absolutely horrifying and shows even with hair at a decent length in the back. Obviously, this may not be the case for every FUT, but to have a smile on the back of your head regardless of how "thin" you think it may be to me is not smart. FUE is not as noticeable and could be very undetectable even when shaved with the right doc.

Why would you pay to have a smile on the back of your head for life? What if you need to shave down? Prepare to get looks from others as if you're a creature from another planet. It's the reality of it, I have seen it to many times and also the reactions of others when they see it.

I wouldn't do it. Terrible decision IMHO.

[tedwuji]

I would definitely do FUE with Rahal over any other surgeon right now. I personally would never do strip. Why the hell would you want a joker scar on the back of your head and pay for it?

Even if you stabilize and never shave down, why would you do that to your head versus FUE? I have seen a FUT scar in person and it's absolutely terrifying. I would never.

If i never shave down, the strip scar is pencil thin (seen those regulary from top docs like H&W) and i am getting all my grafts from the sweet spot the question as to why i would not get strip becomes equally compelling... no?

[StayThick]

And FUE?

I would definitely do FUE with Rahal over any other surgeon right now. I personally would never do strip. Why the hell would you want a joker scar on the back of your head and pay for it?

Even if you stabilize and never shave down, why would you do that to your head versus FUE? I have seen a FUT scar in person and it's absolutely terrifying. I would never.

[tedwuji]

Yeah true I would give H&W a slight edge over Rahal too.

Dr. Konior is located in Chicago. My pick personally would be either H&W or Konior (for FUT).

And FUE?

[Swooping]

H&W has always been my first round draft pick, even more than Rahal honestly.

Where is Konior located? I'll have to Google him later...

Yeah true I would give H&W a slight edge over Rahal too.

Dr. Konior is located in Chicago. My pick personally would be either H&W or Konior (for FUT).

[tedwuji]

Nice.

Look at Dr. Konior also if you go for FUT. Imo, he is pretty much the best worldwide and even has a slight edge over H&W (who are considered one of the best) and over Rahal . Have seen some sub-par cases of H&W lately.

H&W has always been my first round draft pick, even more than Rahal honestly.

Where is Konior located? I'll have to Google him later...