Will an official cure ever be found? Honestly

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Hi, thanks for listing all the possible treatments. You mentioned expected release dates for some.
But could you please tell me the dates for all the other treatments?

I can't find anything, whenever I search for a treatment there is just a ton of spiteful comments with no actual information

First of all that wasn't all possible treatments, it's just that those are the things for which positive news has been recently released. There are other approaches such as the chemical CB0301, or the company Follica, that could turn out successfully, but I'm not aware of anything like concrete news or impressive 'after' photos being released.

Also I'm only willing to repeat the dates that have been told by the spokespeople of those two companies, Histogen and Replicel. Regarding the part I highlighted in bold, it's worth noting that the general opinion on these forums was that Histogen was dead and buried, then they came out with the most impressive apparent results and fighting talk that I am aware of - from a woman who has already overseen other sucessful products come to market. So I'm so unwilling to look at anything other than official statements from now on, no matter how plausible any layperson internet talk might sound.

Each thing I listed still needs either a trial phase 3, or phase 2 and 3, (even more than that for pilofocus I think -that one is being tested now but I'm unsure what phase trial number that counts as) - and as far as I can these phase trials don't have a rigid timeline, especially in the gap between phases where data is being analysed and the next phase is being planned and recruited for.

Once a trial phase is announced it is made public how long that trial will run for though. Plus there's all this talk of "21st century cures act" which should speed up the trial process in the US for some things, and then there's trials in other countries with less regulation than the US (ie. why Histogen is claiming they'll release their product in Japan and Mexico first). So I think any timeline spoken of by a forum user (rather than a google-able trial registration webpage or a official spokesperson involved with a trial) should be treated as a rough guess.

Actually, Histogen (Gail Naughton) stated that HSC would be available 18-24 months earlier outside the US. So they are probably referring to the US when they say 2018. They also mentioned that phase 3 would (most likely) be conducted in 2016, which basicly means that HSC could hit the market in 2017.

I think she said Japan and Mexico would be about 2 years from when she was interviewed and the US 2 years later, so yeah that's late 2015 + 2 = late 2017. If it does ever come to market then I'm expecting it to take a bit longer than what she has told us, because that's just how things always seem to go. But that's just me speculating as a forum user so...

[Occulus]

I think we are going to see enormous advancements in the hair transplant industry within the next few years. It will lower cost, and increase yield and increase graft survival. Save up. In five years you will be able to get a nearly full head of hair at a relatively reasonable price.

I think this is highly likely. The continued refinement of robotics in hair restoration will result in very high quality transplants at lower costs. Pilofocus is very exciting, though I think it will take a long time (5 years+) to become widely available. A combination of piloscopy and robotics will be the holly grail of hair restoration, particularly if piloscopy results in some regrowth at the donor area. There will be a couple solid options in about ten to fifteen years, from transplants to pharma protocols.

[ShookOnes]

then my comment to you why do you wanna put your health at risk by taking this pill everyday for the rest of your life? Once you start, you are in for life.. no way out.. taking a certain drug for a quite extended period doesnt seem logical to me either

Uh because I've been on for 3 years with no sides and I'd have lost most of it by now as a diffuser? It works.

Only people who spread the fact it's going to make you impotent are the old bald men who regurgitate false information bitterly because they were too scared leading to this loop you see?

Take it.

[jamesst11]

I think we are going to see enormous advancements in the hair transplant industry within the next few years. It will lower cost, and increase yield and increase graft survival. Save up. In five years you will be able to get a nearly full head of hair at a relatively reasonable price.

[burtandernie]

If your talking regrowth of all your hair then my guess is decades like 2+ or maybe not our life times. The more we see the more I start to put the idea of cure farther back despite the progress made so far. Its just that hard to do, and that much stuff to all work to make it happen. Like others said there will probably be better treatments much sooner than that. I just would not count on some stem cell/hair multiplication cure for a long long time. An oz of prevention is worth a pound of cure couldnt be more true. If you value your hair then keep what you have right now dont wait.

[IvanXproject]

I don't know why this seems the more likely route when deliberate efforts based on ever-improving understanding of hair follicle science have been underway for a good few years now, by many teams with differing approaches. As far as I'm aware, some apparent facts are:

- Bimatoprost confirmed to work and works somewhat better than minoxidil, one trial round away from release, already bought out by Allergan.
- Setipiprant also believed to be promising, also already acquired by Allergan, suspected to enhance effectiveness of Bimatoprost.
- SM04554 preliminary news is that it works (having been tested on high norwoods, significantly), two trial rounds away from release.
- Histogen confirmed work with very significant results, assuming they haven't added fake hair to the heads they've photographed, and have been making bold statements about release dates, one trial round away from release.
- Replicel haven't released any news on efficacy for a long time, but have supposedly improved their approach from the unimpressive results from years ago and have recently partnered with Shiseido and have recently been making bold statements about release dates (both Replicel and Histogen claiming 2018 releases as things stand). One trial round away from release.
- Pilofocus allegedly offers regrowth of extracted follicles from a preliminary trial, although not confirmed. A few trial rounds away from release regardless of this as a scarless hair transplant option with higher graft survival rates than FUE. Which makes getting a transplant less of a gamble and expands what can be achieved with a transplant.

Actually, Histogen (Gail Naughton) stated that HSC would be available 18-24 months earlier outside the US. So they are probably referring to the US when they say 2018. They also mentioned that phase 3 would (most likely) be conducted in 2016, which basicly means that HSC could hit the market in 2017.

[kadze]

I know, I'm wanting to be as cautious as possible which is why, as I say, I've stuck to what appear to be facts as of Jan 7th 2016. As far as I'm aware, none of what I said in that post is speculation from me or any other forum user, just "official" news. If those 'facts' come off sounding like reason for optimism then so be it.

Hi, thanks for listing all the possible treatments. You mentioned expected release dates for some.
But could you please tell me the dates for all the other treatments?

I can't find anything, whenever I search for a treatment there is just a ton of spiteful comments with no actual information

[mcarpenter089]

No cure is coming man, just go to school and become rich it will ease the blow bro

[BaldingEagle]

The fact is they are promising possible future treatments, nothing more or less.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

What's the one thing in common they all have? None have made it to phase 3 trials. No drug since finasteride has. Let's talk when they make it to p3, let alone prove they work.

I want a new treatment as much as anybody else, but let's be realistic here.

I know, I'm wanting to be as cautious as possible which is why, as I say, I've stuck to what appear to be facts as of Jan 7th 2016. As far as I'm aware, none of what I said in that post is speculation from me or any other forum user, just "official" news. If those 'facts' come off sounding like reason for optimism then so be it.

[Trouse5858]

Ya from where I'm sitting we are all screwed when it comes to acutual re growth for the foreseeable future.

I think it's the opposite. Just about all of the upcoming treatments listed above - Bim, SM, Histogen, Replicel, CB, Pilofocus (I don't know much of anything about Seti)- are all aimed at re-growing hairs and or/ repairing follicles. I don't know of anything on the horizon that will safely stop hairloss, which is really what people are talking about when they invoke the word 'cure' since you can go see a private surgeon and get the majority of your hair back with a transplant depending on your situation.

Regardless, there will be a cure or at least something resembling a cure in our lifetimes for sure. Technology is exploding and bio-tech is a massive industry. As others have said, discoveries in other areas of bio-chemistry will prove to be very beneficial to researchers in other disciplines, which will only accelerate the process of discovery. That's already happening right now. The biggest obstacle is government over-regulation IMO.

[brocktherock]

The treatments coming in the next few years can cure further balding and regrow quite a bit. With HT then this will be enough to eliminate the problem for most people

[bigentries]

Of course a cure will be found, I see no reason to believe the contrary

It's not like we are trying to grow amputated fingers, several cases of complete regrowth have been documented, not only with minox or fin. We don't really know exactly what processes are involved, but surely someone will find out in the future

Now, will a good treatment be found in the near future? I already lost my hopes about that. SM seems like the dark horse here since they are so secretive and are moving in an untypical fast way

I'll only get excited when there's unquestionable proof of regrowth, after seeing that, I don't care if it takes a decade for commercialisation. I want to see something that works

[Hairmore]

I find the following things more likely to happen BEFORE there will be a treatment that will be really significantly better than the existing ones so that it could be considered as a 'cure':

- First man on mars
- Self driving cars make up the majority of cars
- All glaciers are gone from planet earth
- Human population reaches 10 billion
- Fossil fuels lose its importance to regenerative energies

When will we will get a cure? Sometime when we live but I believe it will be at least 30 years.

[boldat25]

Ya from where I'm sitting we are all screwed when it comes to acutual re growth for the foreseeable future.