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[mcarpenter089]

Those histogen results were very lack luster in my opinion. But i guess more injections could yield better results, but lets not get ahead of ourselves guys.

[mcarpenter089]

My threads i start are so good bgecause im actualy being reslistic

[ShookOnes]

Forgive me . . . But I am baffled to see this topic at the top of the forum for one AND shocked that it has soooo many replies? Promising potential cure posts don't get this many replies or attention? Can Anybody enlighten me as to why such a reaction to ONE negative opinion?

because it sparks debate whether he's right or wrong. personally i think it'll be 20 years. and then people will either agree or disagree with me resulting in pages of crap.

[djbfxtrader]

Forgive me . . . But I am baffled to see this topic at the top of the forum for one AND shocked that it has soooo many replies? Promising potential cure posts don't get this many replies or attention? Can Anybody enlighten me as to why such a reaction to ONE negative opinion?

[Walk the line]

I understand your points and I agree with you. The good thing is that we have NEWS and a lot of them and every year there gonna be a lot more, but to prettify those news it's not good. By now we have like 10+ companies or something, I guess we're not gonna have 10+ new drugs in the next 5 years.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Allthegoo...blah blah blah sounds like another idiot ignoring the proof. If you believe him / her / it over the Histogen photos posted that show cosmetic improvement than more fool you.

The best thing you can do here is ignore people that speculate in any direction.

Keep your eyes peeled for facts.

So I'm not crazy then, there's not something I'm not aware of that's stopping Histogen being mentioned in every thread? It just seems like it should have caused more waves than it has.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

Hello everybody! First timer here. My opinion is that we are not qualified and we have zero knowledge in the field, so any bold statement like "there's never gonna be a cure" or "common people, this company will hack it in 2 years!". The only thing we can do is to be observers and just search for any news. Stay positive, as hard as it gets...

We've just recently had the biggest news I can remember and I'm starting to think I must look like a crazy person, repeating myself in all these threads. There are companies themselves (Histogen and Replicel/Shiseido), who do know exactly what they're talking about, saying they either have already or expect to hack it and that both do intend to release somewhere in the world in two years. It might turn out they are wrong or lying, but that's them coming out and saying it publicly, not people on message boards. And then there's the molecules that are being trialled with apparent success, which is crucial news on its own. The "It's never gonna be solved or at least not in any useful timeframe" side of the debate seems a lot less likely in my eyes.

[pixels]

If you've seen the recent Histogen results and heard the interviews and are still saying this, I want to pull the rest of my hair out.

Allthegoo...blah blah blah sounds like another idiot ignoring the proof. If you believe him / her / it over the Histogen photos posted that show cosmetic improvement than more fool you.

The best thing you can do here is ignore people that speculate in any direction.

Keep your eyes peeled for facts.

[allTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

I think its a bit silly to say anything can or will do anything like turning follicles back on until its actually happening in real world results proving it does. Its like guessing what a 5000 piece puzzle is when you have 10 pieces put together. MPB is just a big guessing game still.
No one knows if MPB can be reversed or to what degree because nothing as of now is doing it in people yet. Might be tomorrow or could be 20 years who knows. Maybe your right and JAK inhibitors regrow tons of hair anything is possible, but right now keeping hair is priority 1 because as of today regrowing isnt really possible.

If you've seen the recent Histogen results and heard the interviews and are still saying this, I want to pull the rest of my hair out.

[Walk the line]

Hello everybody! First timer here. My opinion is that we are not qualified and we have zero knowledge in the field, so any bold statement like "there's never gonna be a cure" or "common people, this company will hack it in 2 years!". The only thing we can do is to be observers and just search for any news. Stay positive, as hard as it gets...

[burtandernie]

I think its a bit silly to say anything can or will do anything like turning follicles back on until its actually happening in real world results proving it does. Its like guessing what a 5000 piece puzzle is when you have 10 pieces put together. MPB is just a big guessing game still.
No one knows if MPB can be reversed or to what degree because nothing as of now is doing it in people yet. Might be tomorrow or could be 20 years who knows. Maybe your right and JAK inhibitors regrow tons of hair anything is possible, but right now keeping hair is priority 1 because as of today regrowing isnt really possible.

[Dimoxynil]

You're wrong. I think there's a good chance that topical JAK inhibitors combined with antiandrogens and PGD2 inhibitors is the cure. Simply put, the latter halts the disease process and the former turns the follicles back on. Unlike in AA where you are on them for life, I think in AGA you can stop the JAK inhibitor once it grows back and maintain with AAs and PGD2 inhibition.

Simple as that !

[karxxx]

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02503852?term=kerastem&rank=1

[unbalding]

Hello.

In next 5-10-15 years there will be no cure mates. We gotta maintain what we have already. Hopefully smo /6bio will do something until scientists decide put more effort into research..

You're wrong. I think there's a good chance that topical JAK inhibitors combined with antiandrogens and PGD2 inhibitors is the cure. Simply put, the latter halts the disease process and the former turns the follicles back on. Unlike in AA where you are on them for life, I think in AGA you can stop the JAK inhibitor once it grows back and maintain with AAs and PGD2 inhibition.

[ShookOnes]

I think you're exaggerating a bit here. I mean, look at the results Histogen has shown, and the promises they've been making, not just about efficacy but about release dates. I don't think someone having the slightest inkling based on that makes them an idiot. That justifies a slight inkling in my book.

Assuming they're not liars, it's the the best prospect I can ever remember seeing. It's possible that for some reason they're just telling massive lies and putting fake hair on heads for photographs, but I'm not aware of any reason to distrust them (aside from the name Ziering being associated with it).

Hope should be kept in check as always, and people definitely should know to go for fin or dut as their default treatment... but I don't know how what Histogen have shown recently can just be disregarded. If they actually can achieve those results already then expecting it to take decades to get it ready for public sale seems so needlessly pessimistic.

Typo. meant to say "slightest inkling I wouldn't be overjoyed if it works permanently w/without replicel."

I'm a diffuser was balding in middle school grew everything back with fin. Except the temples I spent 16 grand on. Hope needs to be in check but I hate seeing questions on other subs with the false hope of low NW asking if the cure/histogen will come out before their hairloss gets worse... and seeing theur counterparts, the high NW releasing logs of finally doing fin.


Ranted in my other post.