Updated Research and Knowledge - Cutting Edge

[Sogeking]

Hey Chemical thank you for the effort mate. This may or may not work for me but at least I am trying something instead of sitting on my ass and complaining.

[bluesuedeshoes]

I followed BrianBoy's protocol, with slightly less EGCG. Around 700mg EGCG and 300mg OL in 60ml (40ml distilled water, 20ml Eth (95%)). With some drops of Jojoba, Rosemary extract, tea tree and bergamot oil.

Does not seem to fully dissolve though. Solution is cloudy and sediment is floating around. Guess at least a lot of it is dissolving and will still be effective?!

Maybe less water and more eth is needed? Think it's the OL that is tougher to dissolve.

[potato1987]

Hi Chemical, Swiss seems to think that Oleuropein is Decreases PGD2 (COX ?) a WNT agonist, do you think we should limit its use on some days?

[BRIANBOY]

I followed BrianBoy's protocol, with slightly less EGCG. Around 700mg EGCG and 300mg OL in 60ml (40ml distilled water, 20ml Eth (95%)). With some drops of Jojoba, Rosemary extract, tea tree and bergamot oil.

Does not seem to fully dissolve though. Solution is cloudy and sediment is floating around. Guess at least a lot of it is dissolving and will still be effective?!

Maybe less water and more eth is needed? Think it's the OL that is tougher to dissolve.

Yes, you will have some residual sediment which does not dissolve. Just shake it each time you are ready to apply. You are probably right about the OL. It is partially soluble only in fat / oil. Not to worry. The sebum in the skin will most likely break the residual down further. The more alcohol you use, the more possibility of irritation, but, you can alter the mixture as you go and respond.

[bluesuedeshoes]

Yes, you will have some residual sediment which does not dissolve. Just shake it each time you are ready to apply. You are probably right about the OL. It is partially soluble only in fat / oil. Not to worry. The sebum in the skin will most likely break the residual down further. The more alcohol you use, the more possibility of irritation, but, you can alter the mixture as you go and respond.

Thanks. If I notice anything I'll report back. Your input has been greatly appreciated.

[justbreezy]

Revita shampoo contains Procyanidin B-2 and Ketoconozale in it's ingredients. I was purely using that for a few months after my really bad shed in the summer. I think it helped decrease the shedding and added a touch of regrowth, but i was using it almost daily and after getting dermatitis you should regrow hair a little. I would say it helped, but without stopping the minituarization of the follicles its pointless.

My shedding started after a festival, seems i had developed a case of sebhorreic dermititis. I had been dandruff free since my teenage years, so to have an onset of dermatitis was even quite shocking. I feel like the severe shed was triggered from after a severe case of the flu, overly sweating too much at a festival and having to shower with water which was pumped and filtered from the sea. For the first month or two, i would get a really severe burning on the back left side of my scalp, then it shifted to the top then the sides and currently the front. My hair went from brown and thick to now black and thinning, my hair had always been receeding but slow enough for me not to notice, now it's receeding at the temples and pretty bad at the front where the hair used to be really strong and thick.

Post Dermititis: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vbsrmuis7...tOVmG5AFY13jha
November: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/o9bgv5475...k67KI_9sTtRE7a
Last week: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/mc7zqqt8n...d727nCjgFsWN1a

Hadn't used fin, minoxidil.. just Revita and Stemyoxidine. Now, i'm using regenpure. I can see my hair is thinning out, compared to how it used to be. Having said that, up untill this month from August i had no waves in my hair which is exactly how it used to be before the shed. I have naturally curly hair when i was young, i have to say somewhat it's straighter and less thick, but as you can see it's not a terrible recovery. But the hair quality is pretty crappy, i can't use styling product and combing the hair upwards/tightness can feel a tight pulling at times. I'm 26 just for an age reference.

Anyway, i wish guys all the luck in your efforts but personally for me all this time and money invested just isn't worth it. Until something more permanent comes out CRISPR, Replicel or Histogen then i might just entertain shaving it.

[Sogeking]

Revita shampoo contains Procyanidin B-2 and Ketoconozale in it's ingredients. I was purely using that for a few months after my really bad shed in the summer. I think it helped decrease the shedding and added a touch of regrowth, but i was using it almost daily and after getting dermatitis you should regrow hair a little. I would say it helped, but without stopping the minituarization of the follicles its pointless.

My shedding started after a festival, seems i had developed a case of sebhorreic dermititis. I had been dandruff free since my teenage years, so to have an onset of dermatitis was even quite shocking. I feel like the severe shed was triggered from after a severe case of the flu, overly sweating too much at a festival and having to shower with water which was pumped and filtered from the sea. For the first month or two, i would get a really severe burning on the back left side of my scalp, then it shifted to the top then the sides and currently the front. My hair went from brown and thick to now black and thinning, my hair had always been receeding but slow enough for me not to notice, now it's receeding at the temples and pretty bad at the front where the hair used to be really strong and thick.

Post Dermititis: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/vbsrmuis7...tOVmG5AFY13jha
November: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/o9bgv5475...k67KI_9sTtRE7a
Last week: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/mc7zqqt8n...d727nCjgFsWN1a

Hadn't used fin, minoxidil.. just Revita and Stemyoxidine. Now, i'm using regenpure. I can see my hair is thinning out, compared to how it used to be. Having said that, up untill this month from August i had no waves in my hair which is exactly how it used to be before the shed. I have naturally curly hair when i was young, i have to say somewhat it's straighter and less thick, but as you can see it's not a terrible recovery. But the hair quality is pretty crappy, i can't use styling product and combing the hair upwards/tightness can feel a tight pulling at times. I'm 26 just for an age reference.

Anyway, i wish guys all the luck in your efforts but personally for me all this time and money invested just isn't worth it. Until something more permanent comes out CRISPR, Replicel or Histogen then i might just entertain shaving it.

I too started losing hair slowly thinning and a few months after I got a fierce onset of sebhorreic dermititis. Sebhorreic dermititis might expedite the hair loss. The treatment for it is ketocotonazole(Nizoral).

[Swooping]

Thank you for your extensive response Chemical.

[potato1987]

Any help ?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18283040

and

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/22104-Updated-Research-and-Knowledge-Cutting-Edge?p=229032#post229032

[justbreezy]

I too started losing hair slowly thinning and a few months after I got a fierce onset of sebhorreic dermititis. Sebhorreic dermititis might expedite the hair loss. The treatment for it is ketocotonazole(Nizoral).

Totally, definitely can see it speeding up the process. I felt my hair was itchy, but never thought much about it. I went to the barbers for a haircut, he started brushing my hair and there was chunks of hair coming out attached to yellow-ish flakes. Not only embarassing but quite shocking, initially i did a search and thought maybe i have TE, but it didn't take me long to work out it was my families history of AGA.

[Bobbylobbyhobbythrobby]

I'm very new here, but find this all extremely fascinating. I had no former signs of balding until roughly 2.5 months ago. For the last 8 months I have been trying to tackle a Giardia infection, I believe I may have gotten rid of it (although I am still having problems digesting fat and particularly lactose.) But what I found most strange is that 3.5 months ago I started taking this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002ZS6E8...HR6BHBZD4JB9QY) orally to rid myself of the Giardia bug. I took it for about a month, having a teaspoon with each meal 3 times a day.

After a month of stopping this supplement, I started heavily shedding and have not stopped since. I now wonder after reading your in depth knowledge Chemical, specifically about olive leaf extract whether this would have been a major contributor to my rapid balding?

[UNBEAT]

CHemical
what do you think about fgf11 approach with AR receptors? might he has found out something interesting??

[UNBEAT]

JUSTBREEZY
Hey man some thing happen to me with seborreah(severe dundruff with patches) and not only terrible thinning but also very poor quality of hair.
Seems like a mouse hair. I have been 2 years with this and i havent find out something that work.
My doctors said that you can not cure this.

[BigSean]

Chemical,

Do you think human growth horomone (hgh) can inhibit the production DHT? I read about studies which shows intermittent fasting to increase hgh levels by up to 2000%.

[BigSean]

UNBEAT, have you tried apple cider vinegar as a treatment?