US government owned patent on hair follicle neogensis

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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    Originally posted by JayM
    So does it mean that if they have grown and caused neogenisis in Novo, from all human cells, they had the perfect model par a living human to test products? I'm buzzed.

    You can patent something that you have never done.... you can patent things based on technologies that dont even exist.

    So, this does not automatically mean anything at all and is probably a worthless garbage patent

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    • Renee
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 196

      So has dr christiano & jahoda. What I would like to know what percent gene expression have the follicles maintained,Dr. Christiano's maintained 22%. Has he tried his method in humans? If not, when is he planning to? Any luck in contacting him or his assistant?

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      • Dazza
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 264

        Dr Christiano is a woman.

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        • Renee
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 196

          Dazza I know that....Do a better job of reading previous posts before u comment, he is referring to dr Rajesh Thangapazham.

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          • Renee
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 196

            Somebody correct me if I misunderstood. See link, is this company selling derma papilla cells??

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            • Slam1523
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 82

              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              You can patent something that you have never done.... you can patent things based on technologies that dont even exist.

              So, this does not automatically mean anything at all and is probably a worthless garbage patent
              Yep... I see no point is avoiding the concept of hope, but there was a little bit more optimism than i would've expected seeing as it's merely a patent

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              • lacazette
                Senior Member
                • May 2015
                • 394

                Yes renee, i saw another company who sell it also. But as we need our own cells, those things is just for hair research, drug testing,etc.. for the moment

                Jay, I would answer yes to your 2 posts, but you know i'm in the optimist way lol

                In my opinion, as it's regenerative medecine, the term 'topical' in the Wake forest trial would mean extraction of the cells (make them what they need) and then precise application topically ( as it's said in the patent:

                "methods are disclosed herein for transplanting cells capable of inducing human hair follicles to a subject, comprising delivering to a human subject any of the microspheres described above. In some embodiments, the microsphere is subdermally or intradermally delivered to a subject."

                So "regenerative medecine" is that kind of sh.., and it's what Wake forest is dedicated to, so I really don't think that the term 'topical' here mean they are testing an "Androgen spray, Minox 2.0, or other BS",

                Slam , I'm not sure you received health awards,etc with just claims, for me they have something

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                • Gbalding
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 16

                  Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                  You can patent something that you have never done.... you can patent things based on technologies that dont even exist.

                  So, this does not automatically mean anything at all and is probably a worthless garbage patent
                  That is actually not true.

                  You can apply for a patent under those conditions, but no member of the World Trade Organization would grant you a patent unless your invention works.

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                  • Kiwi
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1087

                    Originally posted by Gbalding
                    That is actually not true.

                    You can apply for a patent under those conditions, but no member of the World Trade Organization would grant you a patent unless your invention works.
                    Actually you're wrong. People patent new concepts that could theoretically work based on a design and a patent filing.

                    You hear stories all the time of tech businesses filing patents and then doing nothing at all in that space because either a) it's not possible b) they just don't want other people doing it

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                    • jpar
                      Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 30

                      set aside all of this speculation, I talked to the receptionist at Wake Health. She had a Carolinian accent and interupted me saying "Now that study is all filled up (with trial patients)" "....I'm Sorry!" So whatever the hell Wake is up to it's definitely under way

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                      • Slam1523
                        Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 82

                        Originally posted by lacazette
                        Yes renee, i saw another company who sell it also. But as we need our own cells, those things is just for hair research, drug testing,etc.. for the moment

                        Jay, I would answer yes to your 2 posts, but you know i'm in the optimist way lol

                        In my opinion, as it's regenerative medecine, the term 'topical' in the Wake forest trial would mean extraction of the cells (make them what they need) and then precise application topically ( as it's said in the patent:

                        "methods are disclosed herein for transplanting cells capable of inducing human hair follicles to a subject, comprising delivering to a human subject any of the microspheres described above. In some embodiments, the microsphere is subdermally or intradermally delivered to a subject."

                        So "regenerative medecine" is that kind of sh.., and it's what Wake forest is dedicated to, so I really don't think that the term 'topical' here mean they are testing an "Androgen spray, Minox 2.0, or other BS",

                        Slam , I'm not sure you received health awards,etc with just claims, for me they have something
                        Ok so what exactly is it that they have? I'm not making any claims other than a patent is not a game changer, but you are claiming that they have something... So, what is it? What is there to be just jumping out of my socks for? What's the process, what's the yield, what does this treatment that you say is likely to work consist of? I mean they obviously have something, so I will patiently wait for your explanation outlining what it is they have... I would tell you my thoughts, but for for the obvious reason of not receiving health awards I'm barred from speaking an opinion regarding this...

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                        • Renee
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 196

                          Relax slam be patient the university is just begining to conduct trials. At any rate, I feel confidant than anything else in wake forest with government backing.

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                          • Slam1523
                            Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 82

                            Originally posted by Renee
                            Relax slam be patient the university is just begining to conduct trials. At any rate, I feel confidant than anything else in wake forest with government backing.
                            Renee all I'm saying is if you read a lot of the comments in this thread, that people are basing success solely on where it's coming from rather than information regarding the product or service... I haven't said it won't work, I haven't said that it would, I've simply said sweet, guess we keep waiting... We have NO information to base any decisions off of yet, so what's the chatters out? That the U.S. Government which by the way has been involved in many failed investments, is involved in this?

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                            • bigentries
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 465

                              Originally posted by Kiwi
                              Actually you're wrong. People patent new concepts that could theoretically work based on a design and a patent filing.

                              You hear stories all the time of tech businesses filing patents and then doing nothing at all in that space because either a) it's not possible b) they just don't want other people doing it
                              Rumor sites love to publish patents that don't make any sense. The assumption is that they file those patents just to confuse competitors

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                              • Brock
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 12

                                Anybody know when it'll be available ?

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