US government owned patent on hair follicle neogensis

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  • JayM
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 411

    #46
    Side note: Lacazette ask him about this trial when you email him? Just casually throw it in there haha. Thanks again for doing all this work!

    And Renee and everyone else of course

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    • jpar
      Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 30

      #47
      lacazette i just applied i live 100 miles away. thank you. i dont know what will happen, but i feel so greatful it's been 10 years of searching the internet being picked on and made fun of by people. if this works out i'm going to paypal you $1,000 ... definitely not joking, i'm so impressed with all you guys how far, fast, and deep you all dig. i have a twin brother were identical I want to sign him up too but I know they will placebo one of us and that will be too painful to experience so i'm going to refrain mentioning him, pretty sad about that ~ will let you all know if i get a response and what happens, will post my own pics here too if i get in.

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      • lacazette
        Senior Member
        • May 2015
        • 394

        #48
        Originally posted by jpar
        lacazette i just applied i live 100 miles away. thank you. i dont know what will happen, but i feel so greatful it's been 10 years of searching the internet being picked on and made fun of by people. if this works out i'm going to paypal you $1,000 ... definitely not joking, i'm so impressed with all you guys how far, fast, and deep you all dig. i have a twin brother were identical I want to sign him up too but I know they will placebo one of us and that will be too painful to experience so i'm going to refrain mentioning him, pretty sad about that ~ will let you all know if i get a response and what happens, will post my own pics here too if i get in.
        so good for you bro! you're welcome we're all in the same boat! I hope they'll accept you in the trial !
        I think you'll sign a contract something like that, and you won't be able to share any pictures , or give us infos on what's happening, even if it's working great
        But i think you could give us little infos like which phase it is, in what consist the protocol, number of participants etc.. little things like that, and it's already great!!

        All that 'US army research' sounds really really really promising.
        2014 They claim in the patent they have the solution
        2015 they are enrolling for clinical trial to confirm it

        We were afraid that we will have to wait the all skin graft trials before they think about us. But no, that's not the case!!

        this fabulous quote from the patent will become my new signature haha :

        "[089] The invention also provides a pharmaceutical composition comprising human dermal papilla cells and human keratinocytes, optionally in combination with collagen, for use in treating a subject who is at risk for, diagnosed with, or who has hair loss or is in need of hair follicle neogenesis"


        Hey Jay! yes for sure I will ask him about this in the mail. I hope he will answer and give the very few infos that he is able to give. Will try the other two scientists as well

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        • nohawk
          Junior Member
          • May 2013
          • 13

          #49
          Interesting to see 0 feedback from any of the veteran-sceptics on this forum.... and they are definitely the overwhelming majority

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          • Renee
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 196

            #50
            Nohawk you took the words right out of my mouth. It's amazing members are not raving about this.

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            • Slam1523
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 82

              #51
              It's a patent, it doesn't give any sort of timeline, or any results yet, so what would the skeptics talk about? I think anyone that's been on these forms for a few years knows how these patents come and go with no progress... All you can do is hope, but be realistic along with that!

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              • JayM
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 411

                #52
                Renee, Nohawk, what are you doing?! shhhhhhh haha. Maybe it's at a point where people just are so tired and having this little hope is nice?

                But it's great that you applied jpar. Guys is anyone else on this forum that close? I would jump at this opportunity.

                And to be fair out of it all the hair loss industry is the biggest so what better way to fund expanding the resources needed for skin grafts ect than tapping into the biggest market going, because this will include women as well. It also sounds like not a cure but a reversal of symptoms so for them until a cure is found it would be an investment in every single balding generation.

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                • Hemo
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 138

                  #53
                  Originally posted by nohawk
                  Interesting to see 0 feedback from any of the veteran-sceptics on this forum.... and they are definitely the overwhelming majority
                  There's not much to criticize...no one is marketing a product or anything, a user simply found some patents that seem interesting and promising. There's also no evidence of if/when it's going to market, so again, not much to get worked up over, either positively or negatively.

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                  • lacazette
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 394

                    #54
                    Never saw patents with that kind of claims! Especially regarding neogenesis!
                    And it's from the best researchers with the best technologies in the world. And with multi foundings from multi institutions

                    And there's a clinical trial for mpb by Wake Forest that are enrolling right now!

                    In my case it's just the best thing I read in about 10 years! Nothing compared to anything before

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                    • Renee
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 196

                      #55
                      This is technology and patent backed by US military with unlimited amounts of capital and best researchers. Members who understand scientific terminology can read the patents and provide their comments. Members were all over that follicept and we all know how that turned out!

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                      • Sogeking
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 494

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Hemo
                        There's not much to criticize...no one is marketing a product or anything, a user simply found some patents that seem interesting and promising. There's also no evidence of if/when it's going to market, so again, not much to get worked up over, either positively or negatively.
                        Yup that is exactly what I said in earlier post. Something can come out of this in 2 years or 2 decades. There is just no telling. It could mean the cure or it could mean nothing at all.

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                        • lacazette
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 394

                          #57
                          Hemo, Sogeking

                          Any scientists before had find how to grow 'morphologically correct' hair follicle with normal cycling ! Come on guys Wake up !

                          It's what Cotsarelis tried to find for more than 10 years!! ( and interesting thing is that Cotsarelis participated in a study on neogenesis in 2013 with the 3 researchers of this US army patent) I think he was really sad when he saw this patent come out x)

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                          • Slam1523
                            Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 82

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Renee
                            This is technology and patent backed by US military with unlimited amounts of capital and best researchers. Members who understand scientific terminology can read the patents and provide their comments. Members were all over that follicept and we all know how that turned out!
                            First off it isn't going to be unlimited, the government allots a certain amount of funding, and none of us know how much that actually is. Follicept provided a step by step application, as well as the content of their product... If you can provide EXACT information with regards to application, dosage, and contents of the product, at that point you can start expecting feedback.

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                            • jpar
                              Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 30

                              #59
                              ...im not 1% as well read as 99% of you. but the trials for this are being conducted to discover the best application and dosage of the product. so ofcourse that verdict isn't out because it's not even done yet.

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                              • Slam1523
                                Member
                                • May 2014
                                • 82

                                #60
                                Originally posted by jpar
                                ...im not 1% as well read as 99% of you. but the trials for this are being conducted to discover the best application and dosage of the product. so ofcourse that verdict isn't out because it's not even done yet.
                                That was kind of my point...

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