CB-03-01 users: where are you?

[chongmet]

The iontopheresis study of Cosmo is a fairy tale. Don't believe in everything you read.

And why is that?

[Guildenstern]

http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/news/press/pr2010/2010-10-06.aspx

Basically, if you say these results are faked and it never happened, every study and novelty in the hair loss world is to be a potential fake? thats pure negativity. but this discussion doesn't even belong here.

[chongmet]

http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/...010-10-06.aspx

Basically, if you say these results are faked and it never happened, every study and novelty in the hair loss world is to be a potential fake? thats pure negativity. but this discussion doesn't even belong here.

After reading again the content inside your link, I came into the conclusion that we must know how to use the iontophoresis as it could actually bring us 5-10 years back in time, combined with CB.

[bryan2003]

Bryan, I would like to thank you a lot! It is very helpful that you share your knowledge and experience.
btw - Have you ever considered using the method of Iontophoresis device as the vehicle of CB? In the trials of
Cosmo it seems they had amazing results using the Iontophoresis as a vehicle for CB, and it allowed them to apply CB only once a week(!) with great results. I wonder if it is possible to get or to self-build a device like this for home purposes to test it.

Frankly i do not care what is going on now with the vehicle. I do care what was in the past and is the best for my effects. If the CB will be available in the market then I follow the program:-)

[bryan2003]

Using iontophoresis as delivery method is difficult because CB isn't charged and needs to be altered / charged. Nobody really knows how Cosmo did it as far as i know, but if someone found out i guess it would be a huge deal. Actually i think it's especially great because they achieved an increase of ~100% in hair shaft diameter with just 5 applications. Anyone who claims it doesn't work has clearly not done his homework or is a huge pessimist - although numbers are sadly just numbers.

So have you had the sides before using CB Bryan?

Thats the main key-in the past never had any sides using Cb in the same vehicle as right now and curently got it. A good respond to it is-yes I had the same sides before CB,probably its a huge amount of RU which cant even maintain my hair!
Just stooped using it today and Saba Gel as well. Will upgrade my sides in couple of days.

[Hairismylife]

The iontopheresis study of Cosmo is a fairy tale. Don't believe in everything you read.

I believe your HT is a fairy tale and dont want anything to work. I understand your feeling man.

[Swooping]

And why is that?

To many reasons to list.

http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/...010-10-06.aspx

Basically, if you say these results are faked and it never happened, every study and novelty in the hair loss world is to be a potential fake? thats pure negativity. but this discussion doesn't even belong here.

I'm perfectly aware of them and these are the results I was talking about. These results give you a very skewed view, that's all I can say. But hey what stops you from buying a shitload of 17a-estradiol and buying yourself a iontophoresis machine right now? Apparently all we need is a iontophoresis machine and 1x or 2x a week application of 17a-estradiol right?

Have you read into drug delivery studies? What reasons would you give that a iontophoresis machine would deliver a drug more efficiently to the dermis assuming we are talking about a small molecule which is lipophilic? Elaborate please.

Don't get me wrong CB-03-01 can definitely be a very good treatment if it has a favorable profile of side effects like it's been presented. AR antagonizing is great obviously.

[chongmet]

Thats the main key-in the past never had any sides using Cb in the same vehicle as right now and curently got it. A good respond to it is-yes I had the same sides before CB,probably its a huge amount of RU which cant even maintain my hair!
Just stooped using it today and Saba Gel as well. Will upgrade my sides in couple of days.

Hey Bryan, Have you already started using CB again? What is your regimen right now?
You also mentioned that you have been using CB already in the past. For how long and why did you stop using it?