CB-03-01 users: where are you?

[bryan2003]

What vehicle you using?
As it has been widely said vehicle is a problem for CB

Read through the topic it has been said about my vehicle.
hmm we can say the same about RU some people using in typical vehicle,KB solution or adding to the minox and do not have resutls-does it mean that RU isnt working or still the problem with vehicle? I tried 3 vehicles of RU none of them never worked for me just slowed me down the process. I still know that RU works and is very good in general. Just doesnt work on some people so good anyway the same with everything even Fin,dut,minox.
Another argument is that I also was using CB in a cream vehicle and it didnt work at all!. I think that the problem is an amount of people using it and reporting the results. GK17 was using in a cream and had an amazing results for me didnt work cream sooo?! We need to try on ourselves the vehicles that is the best way.

chongmet ofc isnt it a problem just you will need about 2ml for the whole area. I do USE 1 ml on nw4 for the rest of the hair another 1ml but of RU.

[chongmet]

Read through the topic it has been said about my vehicle.
hmm we can say the same about RU some people using in typical vehicle,KB solution or adding to the minox and do not have resutls-does it mean that RU isnt working or still the problem with vehicle? I tried 3 vehicles of RU none of them never worked for me just slowed me down the process. I still know that RU works and is very good in general. Just doesnt work on some people so good anyway the same with everything even Fin,dut,minox.
Another argument is that I also was using CB in a cream vehicle and it didnt work at all!. I think that the problem is an amount of people using it and reporting the results. GK17 was using in a cream and had an amazing results for me didnt work cream sooo?! We need to try on ourselves the vehicles that is the best way.

chongmet ofc isnt it a problem just you will need about 2ml for the whole area. I do USE 1 ml on nw4 for the rest of the hair another 1ml but of RU.

Ok thank you for the reply. Do you buy the et and pg from kane too or what?
and, if i buy 1g of CB is that for 3 months plus minus? (if I apply 1 ml 1% once a day)

[bryan2003]

Ok thank you for the reply. Do you buy the et and pg from kane too or what?
and, if i buy 1g of CB is that for 3 months plus minus? (if I apply 1 ml 1% once a day)

Guys first of all pls be pation and w8 for my effects or the lack of it. Its been just 3 weeks need at least 3-6months to say if it works or no. Its expensive stuff I do not want anyone here waste the money. I take the risk cos nothing has left to me. Just CB and the last is fin which causes a lot of sides to me. Would like to avoid it thats why going for 1 y treatmant on CB.
Et at least 96% you will get at the shop and pg from the internet ebay or whatever:-) yes gonna last more less 3 months in such case.

[chongmet]

Guys first of all pls be pation and w8 for my effects or the lack of it. Its been just 3 weeks need at least 3-6months to say if it works or no. Its expensive stuff I do not want anyone here waste the money. I take the risk cos nothing has left to me. Just CB and the last is fin which causes a lot of sides to me. Would like to avoid it thats why going for 1 y treatmant on CB.
Et at least 96% you will get at the shop and pg from the internet ebay or whatever:-) yes gonna last more less 3 months in such case.

You are right. My situation is similar to yours. I need to do everything I can to fight my hair loss, even if it is expensive. Thats why I want to try the CB treatment. And also I don't want to use FIN.
What did you mean by getting the ethanol from the shop? Which shop? Kane's? In Kane's There is only something called OC-ethanol and looks very expensive (200 dollars)

[bryan2003]

You are right. My situation is similar to yours. I need to do everything I can to fight my hair loss, even if it is expensive. Thats why I want to try the CB treatment. And also I don't want to use FIN.
What did you mean by getting the ethanol from the shop? Which shop? Kane's? In Kane's There is only something called OC-ethanol and looks very expensive (200 dollars)

just the normal spir,alcohol 96%. Nothing from kane shop! You will need from him just the CB.
If you do not want to w8 then go for it but remember that I take a risk as well and do not promise to anyone any good effects.

[Sogeking]

@bryan
mate I think the main concern in this are the side effects.

[chongmet]

just the normal spir,alcohol 96%. Nothing from kane shop! You will need from him just the CB.
If you do not want to w8 then go for it but remember that I take a risk as well and do not promise to anyone any good effects.

Sorry to bother - but can you show me a link or something to an example of the ethanol and pg you usually buy? We don't live in the same
country probably, and I really want to make sure I understand what to buy.

[bryan2003]

@bryan
mate I think the main concern in this are the side effects.

Yes I know and they were before CB...
Soon gonna have some spare time will need to check it.

Sorry to bother - but can you show me a link or something to an example of the ethanol and pg you usually buy? We don't live in the same
country probably, and I really want to make sure I understand what to buy.

Do not worry man ask as many question as is needed. Where are you from? PG I use this one but you can find different ones as well http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propylene-...item1c30b6deb5. Alcohol any pure 96% or more.

[chongmet]

Yes I know and they were before CB...
Soon gonna have some spare time will need to check it.



Do not worry man ask as many question as is needed. Where are you from? PG I use this one but you can find different ones as well http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Propylene-...item1c30b6deb5. Alcohol any pure 96% or more.

Thanks! but also regarding the alcohol, can you find something to show me? We have here many types. Im not sure if its ok.
Is alcohol 96% that written "for drinking" on it, ok also?

[bryan2003]

Thanks! but also regarding the alcohol, can you find something to show me? We have here many types. Im not sure if its ok.
Is alcohol 96% that written "for drinking" on it, ok also?

Yes is normal alcohol 96% and is suitable to drink as well but to strong heh xD I was drinking this once only xD

[chongmet]

Yes is normal alcohol 96% and is suitable to drink as well but to strong heh xD I was drinking this once only xD

Haha ok great. Just few technical questions:
1. The process of mixing - is that simple mixing between the CB and the ethanol? No special devices or methods? And for how long you should perform the mixing? Just for few seconds?
When you add the PG, you mix again them alltogether? Or you just add the PG and not touching?
2. Just to make sure - 0.1g of CB + 5g of ET + 5g of PG ?
3. Should you store the whole thing in a sepcial temperature afterwards?
4. The use of CB - Do I need to wait some time after I put Minox? (Maybe it is not safe to put them on the same time) ? And how long it takes to CB to dry? (Minox takes me about 2-3 hours to dry)

Thanks a lot

[bryan2003]

Haha ok great. Just few technical questions:
1. The process of mixing - is that simple mixing between the CB and the ethanol? No special devices or methods? And for how long you should perform the mixing? Just for few seconds?
When you add the PG, you mix again them alltogether? Or you just add the PG and not touching?
2. Just to make sure - 0.1g of CB + 5g of ET + 5g of PG ?
3. Should you store the whole thing in a sepcial temperature afterwards?
4. The use of CB - Do I need to wait some time after I put Minox? (Maybe it is not safe to put them on the same time) ? And how long it takes to CB to dry? (Minox takes me about 2-3 hours to dry)

Thanks a lot

1. Yes its very simple. You do it manually stir it for 2-3 min until it will be dissolved. CB is a cristal so it takes a while. Then you can shake it for 30 sec.
2. Yes it gonna last for 9-10 days also you can do different ones its up to you.
3. I do store in the fridge but think that room temperature should be fine.
4. Is good you use minox cos the best results CB has with that. I know that it dries a lot probably you use kirkland which contains 50%pg30% et. I have ordered qgain because couldn't find any info about the % of pg and et maybe is better like 50et30pg would be perfect. You can also try with qgain foam is quite cheap and dries instantly. I cant have it cos travelling a lot and need the bottle max 100 ml.
Coming back to the question- use minox and after at least 1 h CB.

[chongmet]

1. Yes its very simple. You do it manually stir it for 2-3 min until it will be dissolved. CB is a cristal so it takes a while. Then you can shake it for 30 sec.
2. Yes it gonna last for 9-10 days also you can do different ones its up to you.
3. I do store in the fridge but think that room temperature should be fine.
4. Is good you use minox cos the best results CB has with that. I know that it dries a lot probably you use kirkland which contains 50%pg30% et. I have ordered qgain because couldn't find any info about the % of pg and et maybe is better like 50et30pg would be perfect. You can also try with qgain foam is quite cheap and dries instantly. I cant have it cos travelling a lot and need the bottle max 100 ml.
Coming back to the question- use minox and after at least 1 h CB.

Bryan, I would like to thank you a lot! It is very helpful that you share your knowledge and experience.
btw - Have you ever considered using the method of Iontophoresis device as the vehicle of CB? In the trials of
Cosmo it seems they had amazing results using the Iontophoresis as a vehicle for CB, and it allowed them to apply CB only once a week(!) with great results. I wonder if it is possible to get or to self-build a device like this for home purposes to test it.

[Guildenstern]

Using iontophoresis as delivery method is difficult because CB isn't charged and needs to be altered / charged. Nobody really knows how Cosmo did it as far as i know, but if someone found out i guess it would be a huge deal. Actually i think it's especially great because they achieved an increase of ~100% in hair shaft diameter with just 5 applications. Anyone who claims it doesn't work has clearly not done his homework or is a huge pessimist - although numbers are sadly just numbers.

So have you had the sides before using CB Bryan?

[Swooping]

The iontopheresis study of Cosmo is a fairy tale. Don't believe in everything you read.