Spanish clinic announce 100% donor regeneration.

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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    #16
    Originally posted by nameless
    I can understand why Pilofocus could produce hair transplants without scars but I can't understand why people think that it might yield donor regeneration after harvesting. There's no proof that Pilofocus could result in donor regeneration.

    Duplicative surgery might represent a successful alternative for hair transplantation, because both portions are capable of regenerating a healthy hair. Moreover, our results suggest the possible presence of stem cells in both halves of the follicle.



    No other technique besides pilofocus could do this in practice.

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1408

      #17
      Duplicative surgery might represent a successful alternative for hair transplantation, because both portions are capable of regenerating a healthy hair. Moreover, our results suggest the possible presence of stem cells in both halves of the follicle.



      No other technique besides pilofocus could do this in practice (FearTheLoss, 2015) .

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      • nameless
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 965

        #18
        How about a whole scalp transplant fellas...

        The first skull and scalp transplant has been performed in a 15-hour operation, say doctors in the US.

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        • FearTheLoss
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1581

          #19
          Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19438685


          No other technique besides pilofocus could do this in practice (FearTheLoss, 2015) .


          With reasonable pricing and reasonable man-hours, no. The whole concept would be pilofocus splits the follicle in the necessary way as the extraction, rather than having to extract it and then split as done in the study.

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          • nameless
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 965

            #20
            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
            http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19438685


            No other technique besides pilofocus could do this in practice.
            How many studies does pilofocus have to do? Does it have to go through phase 1, phase 2, phase 3?

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1581

              #21
              Originally posted by nameless
              How many studies does pilofocus have to do? Does it have to go through phase 1, phase 2, phase 3?

              No it just needs FDA approval which it should get this year. Then the technique for getting the best donor regeneration will have to be refined by doctors using it, but the science is definitely there in its favor.

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              • sets
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 14

                #22
                the pictures! mmmm I think is a scam....

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                • NeedHairASAP
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1408

                  #23
                  Originally posted by sets
                  the pictures! mmmm I think is a scam....
                  http://www.clinicacfs.com/fotografia...celulas-madre/
                  uhhhhh..... what exactly are these pictures suppose to prove??

                  they might as well have posted pictures of the weather outside because these tell us nothing....

                  how would they even know the % based on these photos?

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                  • Dimoxynil
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 125

                    #24
                    Call this short sighted but the Spanish aren't exactly well known for their scientific advances. The country is completely broke. I know it's not completely fair to generalise in this way but ask yourself, would you feel more confident paying for a treatment from US, Germany, Japan or a third world county or failed EU state ?

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                    • JayM
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 411

                      #25
                      Your right it could be a scam but if it's true and he did just extract from that rectangular area, at 2000 grafts you would be able to see it thinning.

                      I guess the question is if he did haha.

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                      • efedrez
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 168

                        #26
                        I just visited their website (Spanish is my firts language) and it looks almost funny.
                        I'm sorry but this is clearly a hair transplant clinic claiming to have a method that is most likely a simple FUE
                        They even make a comment about people in the U.S. Calling them scammers because the Americans are envy of an small Spanish practice which is typical scammers speech if you ask me

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                        • Trouse5858
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 166

                          #27
                          The pictures of the results are dogshit anyway. On to the next one.

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                          • JayM
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 411

                            #28
                            But to be fair if you had 2000 grafts taken from a small area could you not simply prove or disprove it? Like I would be happy to do that. You could just put all the rest of the donor area in pony tails and make it impossible to tamper with and then you would know only that zone was touched.

                            I'm fairly sure they will take it from a small area like in that picture because they need to keep coming back to look at the health of that donor hair. Hell I would even just take a friend with me and make sure they only work on that area, simple. It can't be that hard to prove it or not.

                            As for HSI they extract like they would with fue, along the whole safe donor area. And tbf I would want that if they don't know how much will grow back. So this could be easier to find out if it works or not.

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                            • nameless
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 965

                              #29
                              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                              uhhhhh..... what exactly are these pictures suppose to prove??

                              they might as well have posted pictures of the weather outside because these tell us nothing....

                              how would they even know the % based on these photos?
                              Needhairasap, it is looking more and more like Piloscopy may be the best thing coming for the next 5 - 10 years *if* it produces 100% regeneration or thereabouts.

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                              • FearTheLoss
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 1581

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nameless
                                Needhairasap, it is looking more and more like Piloscopy may be the best thing coming for the next 5 - 10 years *if* it produces 100% regeneration or thereabouts.
                                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19438685 This is the article Dr. Wesley posted awhile ago, it seems as if pilofocus could easily do this, it would just be about finding the optimal depth to cut the follicle horizontally. If there are indeed stem cells on both halves of the follicle, as supported by this article, then



                                Probably not 100%, but potentially very high. We will have to wait and see, but there is 3rd party research supporting what Dr. Wesley is doing. Furthermore, piloscopy should be able to produce better results than the linked study for various reasons discussed in this thread.

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