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  • serenemoon
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    Originally posted by ShookOnes
    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?
    We are gonna see from the convenience trials starting Monday

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  • joel203
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    Originally posted by ShookOnes
    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?
    bump

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  • EXprettyboy
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    @ Devon, I would like to bring something to your attention about shedding and your trial time frame.

    First off, I understand that minoxidil causes a shed when continually used that is the result of a short lived anagen phase.

    The mice study has shown that dormant follicles on slick bald area's can be awakened to produce vellus hair which then gets progressively more terminal. All good so far.

    BUT there is a universal type of initial shed common to ALL good treatments.

    Now thats the thing that seems to have gone un-addressed And I fear you guys will misinterpret early results (how arrogant of me! but I'm totally behind you guys, your inspirational.)

    anyway IGF1 will trigger anagen. Very bald areas will improve immediateley. But in other areas of the scalp where the hair is still semi terminal, the newly induced anagen cycle will force a shed of that existing hair as the new hair cycle is induced.

    I believe Follicept will work, and I believe that will cause a shed of your existing hair in the first couple weeks, which is fine really.

    Just don't panic when it happens! ...Proceed with the trial, don't abandon it.

    the other possibility is that IGF1 does not induce anagen, but rather prolongs it. Yet It has been made explicitly clear in the presentation that anagen is induced by igf1 and then the treatment is pulsed as continuing treatment does not then prolong anagen but paradoxically ceases it.

    You are going to shed initially is you are early Norwood. Late Norwoods have 'nothing to lose' anyway, and will improve cosmetically from day 1

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  • benutzer81
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    Devon, thank you for being so transparent and that you keeping us informed about the whole progress. The theory seems legit but we must also remember that it`s based on trials with animals.

    Anyway, all the members of the german forum will keeping their fingers crossed! http://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/t/26973/

    We wish you a lot of success and happy growing!

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  • nameless
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    Originally posted by ShookOnes
    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?
    ShookOnes we don't even know if this is going to work. You are way jumping the gun. I can't believe that there are posters who are actually relying on Follicept to work. It's way more likely that Follicept will NOT work.

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  • tf2legend
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    Originally posted by ShookOnes
    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?
    If it works, it works all over.

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  • doinmyheadin
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    Originally posted by ShookOnes
    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?
    I think the question should be, is this going to work at all? I thought this just results no arguing thread was supposed to be just that.

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  • jamesst11
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    I don't get it... if you guys (primarily Arashi and Swooping) are 100% convinced that this formula won't work and/or is a scam, then why are you still reading these posts and posting on here? Is it to save us? Inform us? pride? instigation? I am just confused... please explain yourselves?

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  • ShookOnes
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    so is this going to work on hairline or not..?

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  • stayhopeful
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    Arashi why are you still here? you said it's a scam and it's not going to work. what do you care then? or is there somewhere within you that is optimistic it will work go ahead and admit it dude welcome to the team

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  • FrenchNewbie
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    Originally posted by Swooping
    It's kinda ironic that one page ago you ask someone to explain the exert for you. Now you comment on it like it's heaven, without having any understanding of the article itself? That green icon next to your name is on here 24/7, I bet your hair is falling out at a very fast rate. Desperation makes blind that is for sure.

    To Devon, I'm not impressed by the article sorry. It is superficial, lacks in depth, the hypothesis is very crumbly and not exciting. The comparison between mice and the resemblance of Androgenetic Alopecia is downwards cringe worthy.

    Can you link me to some publications of Dr. Hsu in his respective field by the way? Thank you.
    It's just a powerpoint. It explains why Follicept could work for us (we are no scientists, this document is opened for a large public). You are not a scientist but you have the vanity of a Nobel Prize. Dr. Hsu is surely 1000 times better in science than you will never be in your life. Where are your publications? We don't care about what you are thinking.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by amoksha
    Agreed, Swooping loves a power trip. Good thing he is no scientist or doctor and no researchers are reporting to him. One needs to look at themselves in the mirror..
    Yes, let all the 2015 accounts do some more sceptic bashing please ! If you bash long enough, they'll stop with their damn criticism !!! Follicept insult brigade: unite !!

    LOL

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  • amoksha
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    Agreed, Swooping loves a power trip. Good thing he is no scientist or doctor and no researchers are reporting to him. One needs to look at themselves in the mirror..

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  • stayhopeful
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    Originally posted by Swooping
    It's kinda ironic that one page ago you ask someone to explain the exert for you. Now you comment on it like it's heaven, without having any understanding of the article itself? That green icon next to your name is on here 24/7, I bet your hair is falling out at a very fast rate. Desperation makes blind that is for sure.

    To Devon, I'm not impressed by the article sorry. It is superficial, lacks in depth, the hypothesis is very crumbly and not exciting. The comparison between mice and the resemblance of Androgenetic Alopecia is downwards cringe worthy.

    Can you link me to some publications of Dr. Hsu in his respective field by the way? Thank you.
    Swooping my hair is a lot better than yours I saw your rU pics. Don't think you are in ANY position to be making hair jokes lol

    And if you are commenting about how often I'm online it means you are online just as much.... SD surfing is 1000% right about you.. You have some severe comprehension issues lol.. Hooked on phonics bro look it up

    No one cares if you aren't impressed. If you are so talented get off the computer and go produce some research yourself instead of being a keyboard monkey passing judgements on everyone like you are some sort of authority haha lol dude you are a trip

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  • noisette
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    Originally posted by follicept
    As opposed to a cure. It should regrow hair as opposed to just stopping loss, but maintenance in the sense that it needs continued use, not a cure. Either way we will see soon. If you have other ideas and hundreds of millions, we're all ears! haha.
    Fingers crossed

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