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  • follicept
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 251

    #76
    Originally posted by Arashi
    IF it's OVERWHELMINGLY good we MAY. Hardly a commitment to screwing you over.

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    • Jagger
      Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 59

      #77
      Originally posted by Arashi
      Of course you don't. You're a 6 year long forum lurker (your own words), just with a 2015 account. Since you've been on this forum for so long (6 years you've been lurking here you said, so that's quite some experience you got there) you already know that we don't need much proof. A forum test, that's totally unnecessary, a waste of time. Shaved hair, who cares about that, we dont need that. Just tell us when we can buy it !
      If you recall (you don't), I supported the idea of a forum test and even gave YOU my blessing as a tester, as convincing you would go a long way toward convincing other doubters. And if you read the rest of the goddamned comment, you would see my justification for feeling this way.

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      • nameless
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 965

        #78
        Originally posted by Jagger
        If you recall (you don't), I supported the idea of a forum test and even gave YOU my blessing as a tester, as convincing you would go a long way toward convincing other doubters. And if you read the rest of the goddamned comment, you would see my justification for feeling this way.
        Don't take it too personal Jagger. I lurked for years before making a post too and every last person here knows I'm a real person and everyone also knows I'm doing the best I can to make logical judgments. That's not to say that everyone agrees with the things I say (for example, almost everyone disagrees with my opinion about Nigam) but everyone knows I'm a real person doing my best to make my own conclusions.

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #79
          Originally posted by follicept
          IF it's OVERWHELMINGLY good we MAY. Hardly a commitment to screwing you over.
          So in that case you're going to sell it on basis of pics of your own scalp and some others. Wouldnt it then even make more sense to try to perform the test in the best way possible ? So, shave your head ? Cause those pics might be going to be the basis people are going to buy your product on.

          If it was just a test for you guys self: different story. But you said it might not be.

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          • oppenheimer82
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 118

            #80
            yo arashi, enough already mate. je hebt die andere follicept thread om helemaal los te kunnen gaan. waar ben je nu eigenlijk mee bezig man? je hebt je punt al lang gemaakt en je hebt een goed punt, dit gaat hoogstwaarschijnlijk niet werken en we weten spoedig hoe het precies zit, maar genoeg nu. serieus bro, laat het gaan en wacht de resultaten af.

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            • BoSox
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 697

              #81
              Originally posted by follicept
              I certainly can't, still learning myself! Haha. Basically he thinks pulse of IGF-1 will reactivate receptors and make follicles re-enter anagen phase.

              Designed as maintenance, yes.
              Maintenance? I thought this was to work better than minox & fin? Those are maintenance drugs. We need something better.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #82
                Originally posted by oppenheimer82
                yo arashi, enough already mate. je hebt die andere follicept thread om helemaal los te kunnen gaan. waar ben je nu eigenlijk mee bezig man? je hebt je punt al lang gemaakt en je hebt een goed punt, dit gaat hoogstwaarschijnlijk niet werken en we weten spoedig hoe het precies zit, maar genoeg nu. serieus bro, laat het gaan en wacht de resultaten af.
                You know, it's always the same story. People who have found a cure have such a difficult time coughing up believable proof: Nigam and Gho just never could find a decent photographer. And now we have Devon, who doesnt want to shave his head. Multi billion dollars lying ahead but every time there's a reason why they just cant cough up decent proof... So, what am I doing here? You mean, what's Devon doing here ?

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                • amoksha
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 17

                  #83
                  Originally posted by stayhopeful
                  no dude no one ever said that. he said EXPLICITLY: He will only sell on Indiegogo if they have legitimate and verifiable proof of EFFICACY AND SAFETY. Not selling on Indiegogo until we see some legit pics/vids, he even said so bro, try to keep an open mind. This aint Nigam or other wackos, not a fair comparison. When did any of those other quacks provide that detailed of science?? Nigam etc sound like a bunch of elementary school students compared to HSU, you ain't making a fair comparison and you know it
                  +1 Agree with StayHopeful

                  Arashi man, just hold your guns and relax man. Just give them the benefit of doubt.

                  Just wait and see. We all want it work and we all want to reap the benefit. Keep ya cautious optimism to ya self bro.

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                  • follicept
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 251

                    #84
                    Originally posted by BoSox
                    Maintenance? I thought this was to work better than minox & fin? Those are maintenance drugs. We need something better.
                    As opposed to a cure. It should regrow hair as opposed to just stopping loss, but maintenance in the sense that it needs continued use, not a cure. Either way we will see soon. If you have other ideas and hundreds of millions, we're all ears! haha.

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                    • follicept
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 251

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      So in that case you're going to sell it on basis of pics of your own scalp and some others. Wouldnt it then even make more sense to try to perform the test in the best way possible ? So, shave your head ? Cause those pics might be going to be the basis people are going to buy your product on.

                      If it was just a test for you guys self: different story. But you said it might not be.
                      We just don't know yet man. Just await the results, please. Hell, if it works really well you might be the one begging for us to start selling! Like I said, our standards of evidence are higher than yours in order for us to release it. I promise.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #86
                        Originally posted by amoksha
                        +1 Agree with StayHopeful

                        Arashi man, just hold your guns and relax man. Just give them the benefit of doubt.

                        Just wait and see. We all want it work and we all want to reap the benefit. Keep ya cautious optimism to ya self bro.
                        I'd be giving him the benefit of the doubt if he'd promise not to sell it before we have decent proof. That's what he said in the beginning. But then he changed it, now he's saying that if they see very good results on his own scalp, they'll sell it on Indiegogo already (together with a higher price). And he doesn't even care about running the test in a decent way (unshaven head). THAT's my problem.

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                        • follicept
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 251

                          #87
                          Signing off, talk to you guys Monday!

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                          • oppenheimer82
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 118

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Arashi
                            You know, it's always the same story. People who have found a cure have such a difficult time coughing up believable proof: Nigam and Gho just never could find a decent photographer. And now we have Devon, who doesnt want to shave his head. Multi billion dollars lying ahead but every time there's a reason why they just cant cough up decent proof... So, what am I doing here? You mean, what's Devon doing here ?
                            serieus bro, luister naar me, je hebt gelijk, maar wacht het rustig af en laat je pas weer zien, wanneer die gast zijn zogenaamde resultaten hier laat zien, dan kun je weer eventueel je gram halen. neem een pauze, laat het gaan voor nu. thanks mate.

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                            • stayhopeful
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 280

                              #89
                              wowww I am surprised no one on here has commented on Dr. Hsu powerpoint... all the broscientist have been put in their place

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                              • nameless
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 965

                                #90
                                Originally posted by stayhopeful
                                wowww I am surprised no one on here has commented on Dr. Hsu powerpoint... all the broscientist have been put in their place
                                Histogen has IGF-1 and it's not growing hair like gangbusters...at least not with infrequent injections. Maybe with more frequent injections Histogen would produce better results but Histogen does have MORE growth factors than just IGF-1. A lot more.

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