Where are the phase IIb results for Bimatoprost?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Again, it's about convenience and invasiveness. Lets wait and see.

Buddy, Kybella requires 50 injections in one sitting. I'd hardly say that's convenient or non-invasive.

[breakbot]

You're pretty bullheaded, and you admitted in another thread that you're not optimistic about anything and have a negative bias.

For the last time - this drug exists in the market. Anyone with enough money or determination could make it themselves if positive results were released. But, they haven't released ANY results, so we just don't know. My ideas make sense, but like I said you have an obvious negative bias and are bullheaded.

We'll see who's right soon enough.

Ok you conviced me. Why don't you try it? You revealed allergan's plan so it doesn't matter anymore, so you have to be the first from the forum who will have his eyes colour changed, because i believe that's a strong reason they stopped the procedure.
We will see..

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Ok you conviced me. Why don't you try it? You revealed allergan's plan so it doesn't matter anymore, so you have to be the first from the forum who will have his eyes colour changed, because i believe that's a strong reason they stopped the procedure.
We will see..

1. Pure bimatoprost powder is very expensive. I wouldn't be able to afford it, but let's say they revealed that the trial went well and they are carrying out a phase 3. They still have to take a year to complete it, meanwhile, labs like kane or whoever can buy pure bimatoprost powder in bulk, make the 3% solution and sell it to anyone. Don't believe me? Look how easy it is if you have the money - http://www.alibaba.com/product-detai...5.1.3QxuCv&s=p

2. Bimatoprost only darkens the iris if it is directly applied directly to the eye, or while applying latisse, some gets in your eye. You're not going to change your eye color if you're applying it to your scalp, it doesn't work that way. You can look that up if you think I'm lying. There is no evidence to support your claim.

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Does anyone know when Actavis/Allergan plans to release their 2015 Q2 report?

Sorry, don't know if you saw my posts, but it's on August 6th in the morning, 8:30am I believe.

If not, I'm giving up on bim. Well, at least till January when they legally have to post results.

[hellouser]

So it's been how many since they were supposed to publish results?

Nice of them to spit in the face of everyone involved with BIM. Pathetic.

[joel203]

Sorry, don't know if you saw my posts, but it's on August 6th in the morning, 8:30am I believe.

If not, I'm giving up on bim. Well, at least till January when they legally have to post results.

do you expect them to announce the results on the 6th august then?

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

do you expect them to announce the results on the 6th august then?

I'm hoping so!

Kobren said he had heard the results were really good - better than minox, and enough to take some people off propecia

"Bornthisway" said he was told by a dematologists office that claims to work closely with Allergan and that they're really close ("like this summer" he says) to releasing a hair loss treatment based on bim. Said he found it interesting that they even knew about the drug being in trials.

"BiqqieSmalls" is an Allergan shareholder - he called up investor relations and asked why haven't the results (even to shareholders) been released yet. They said because of the "complexity of bimatoprost." I'm not sure what that means, but if you read my other posts, I've tried to make sense of that answer with actual facts that possibly could explain it. Also, he asked when they'd release results and they said "in a few months." He asked back in early May, and that would make it abt 3-4 months.

In other articles I've read, the Head of R&D at Allergan, Scott Whitcup said that they recruited enough people in phase 2 so that if they saw positive results, they could immediately jump into a phase 3. The phase 2 trial began in August 2013, and the primary outcome measure (end of the study) was in September 2014, for some reason the actual end of the trial was in January 2015.

So, I think it's possible. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[burtandernie]

Id be most curious to just see results from any studies. Every new treatment also brings much more understanding about why MPB happens enabling future avenues of further research. Look how popular DHT became after propecia. I mean tons of stuff into AAs after that because we had proof androgens are critical to MPB

[Pelopeleon]

So... Could bimatoprost be closer to be released than we think?

[lupero83]

for those who have not read .
Why they say the August 6 results were published ?. Thank You

http://www.bradford.ac.uk/life-sciences/news-and-events/news/glaucoma-drug-to-treat-hair-loss.php

[JayM]

That link is from 2012...? The guy who thinks the results could be mentioned on the 6th of august this year has explained why he thinks so.

[dutchguyhanging]

all i read about BIM is that the product is inferior to minox. so I dont think this would be enough to pitch it to the market. Real opportunities not lies within this forum but outside. I dont think it would be successful if it shows slightly better results than minox or fin or dut whatever.

I already hear people saying yeah but i'd switch it as long as its side effect free.... yeah mate you are the minority..... Market needs a full blown cure or something permanent in combination with HT. I have alot of friends who are NW4-5 and do not use any of these substances. Does it mean they dont care about hairloss.. they do but the thing is the results are just not good enough, and u need to take it every day....


As a marketeer, my advise is to come up with something gamechanger or there is no market for you anyways. Probably thats also why replicel has stated that they have found the cure. Lets be honest no one is interested about mediocre treatments at this point. Either solve the equation or leave the table

[diffuseloser]

Well put. However, it would be something to have a treatment that performs without the sides. Diffuse loss is common among us and one of these treatments could be a revelation with diffuse loss. I've seen some mind blowing results with fin/RU/minox with diffuse loss. Would be fantastic to have a solid, go-to treatment that would eliminate the need for the 3 above and make them a thing of the past. I suppose that's asking too much as it's disappointment after disappointment as usual. But I agree, there's too much pissing about and someone needs to come up with the goods.

[It's2014ComeOnAlready]

Well put. However, it would be something to have a treatment that performs without the sides. Diffuse loss is common among us and one of these treatments could be a revelation with diffuse loss. I've seen some mind blowing results with fin/RU/minox with diffuse loss. Would be fantastic to have a solid, go-to treatment that would eliminate the need for the 3 above and make them a thing of the past. I suppose that's asking too much as it's disappointment after disappointment as usual. But I agree, there's too much pissing about and someone needs to come up with the goods.

The reason why I believe bimatoprost will be an excellent treatment is because it supposedly works better than minoxidil (at the right concentration), can work anywhere on the scalp, and studies have shown that it protects against the ravages of DHT. All that, and side effect free. Maybe some skin irritation with prolonged use, but I'd definitely go for that. Also, once you've reached a density or hair thickness you are pleased with, in their patents, they show that it can be applied once, twice, three times a week to maintain. Not every day.

It would be a game changing treatment if it delivers on those things. If it does, then it would definitely take from finasteride and minoxidil.

[dutchguyhanging]

yet again you guys are maybe like 5% of the community. the rest thinks binary, cure or not. there are hell alot of other things in life we are busy with. we need to make nw7 to nw1. could BIM provide that? the answer is most probably not. then it is over. because you will never ever reach to that majority.

I know all guys care about hair loss... however most of us got discouraged by the mediocre treatments and move on with our life. if u give a cure then we dont need to move on as simple as it is... in other words i dont see how they can make a profitable business model out of it. even if u penetrate into 5% still it wont be enough as there are many cheap knock off sorts like