follicept - what's this?

[noisette]

There are tons of effective cures for mice already. We can even get a hairless mouse all the hairs it needs via biogenerating hair follicles in the lab. Yet none of these cures translated to success in humans.

This company supposedly has the cure for hairloss (=fin without sides) yet they don't pursue it. What's Devon even doing on this forum while Merck surely would like to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a license?

Fin without sides is not a Cure for hairloss. Fin is not a cure, you know that. Stop talking even if you think it is a scam, perhaps it will perhaps it won't. Come back when the results will be there.
For your information Desmond not thinking like you :

Desmond's post : "
Follicept is looking very interesting...these guys are definitely onto something as long as it's carcinogenicity potential is fully tested prior to release. I have to do some reading to see where does IGF come into play with regards to androgens, but I'm sure they know what they're talking about. I'll keep you guys posted if I find anything interesting "

So be kind to stay with us and wait the results before saying some bullshits about Follicept. Nobody Knows until the results will be here !

[nameless]

The people who are calling Follicept a scam are overlooking some important points. One of those points is that in order for Follicept to have been planning a scam along Follicept would have had to know before the FDA decision that the FDA was not going to require standard phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 studies, and there is no way that Follicept could have known that beforehand.

You see, if the FDA had required phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 studies for Follicept, which the FDA could have done, then Follica would be preparing a standard pilot study right now to try to establish efficacy so that they could sell the property rights to a big pharma if the pilot study went well. And then there wouldn't be talk that Follicept is a scam because there's no reason to accuse a company of being a scam if it's treatment is going through the standard FDA clinical trial process. Follicept would not put a treatment through the standard FDA clinical trial process if they knew the treatment is snake oil. And of course Follicept thought that their treatment would have to go through standard studies when they first submitted forms to FDA.

Follicept is NOT a scam. It may not work but it is not a scam.

[Helix]

Objection: asked and answered. 1-10ppm is so low that even full systemic absorption (unlikely) is lower than normal levels in the blood. So low in fact that it's within the margin of error for detection tests in the blood.

I understand that you use tiny doses that usually shouldn't be a problem, but you said that there is something with your vehicle that is making it more efficient. You said that you had the same therapeutic effect of 140 units of insulin per week with just 6 units of insulin. If you had better therapeutic effect then maybe the possibility of side effects will also increase because of the specific properties of your vehicle.

[tom12345]

Finasteride and minoxidil are the only 2 proven meds in clinical trials. They grow hair and or reduce hairloss for lots of people. Yet the big and horrible sides keep many people from using them. If you have a product that can eliminate those sides you have made yourself hundreds of millions of dollars.

Anyway, it didn't for me, so I'm looking to try something new. Done both minox and fin. That said, I've had the aftermath from previous hairloss for many years now, and consider myself a senior in the business, so I don't get my hopes up about anything because I've seen so much crap come and go -- and early on, latched on with the last glimmer of hope to it. Finasteride was good to me in terms of side-effects until I after 2 years decided that what I needed was an intensive cure, so I upped the dosage, and the testicular pain that followed was no joke. I was bedridden for a couple of days because the junk hurt when I moved. That's when I quit finasteride. What I like about Follicept is getting the results from the trial quickly instead of waiting for years of clinical studies. The scientific parts of how it works, I leave to the scientists. :-)

[nameless]

It is not necessarily that the transdermal delivery system gives no sides. I am sure if they used a shit ton of compound you will start seeing some sides. It is that the amount of IGF-1 used/needed is sooo god damn low that chance of it going systemic is really low, and therefore, no chance of sides. Even if it goes systemic, the body won't even feel it. The beauty of the delivery system is that it gets IGF-1 through the skin (or certain other compounds), instead of having to inject large doses. It depends on the compound added to the transdermal delivery system and the dosage used. For Follicept, no sides is the expected case.

And that could result in an efficacy problem because they may not be able to get a dose sufficient to grow hair into human follicles unless they increase the amount of IGF-1 in the mixture and then enough might get into the body to create sides so an efficacious dose may not be possible.

[Arashi]

Fin without sides is not a Cure for hairloss. Fin is not a cure, you know that. Stop talking even if you think it is a scam, perhaps it will perhaps it won't. Come back when the results will be there.
For your information Desmond not thinking like you :

Desmond's post : "
Follicept is looking very interesting...these guys are definitely onto something as long as it's carcinogenicity potential is fully tested prior to release. I have to do some reading to see where does IGF come into play with regards to androgens, but I'm sure they know what they're talking about. I'll keep you guys posted if I find anything interesting "

So be kind to stay with us and wait the results before saying some bullshits about Follicept. Nobody Knows until the results will be here !

Finasteride IS a cure! Sure it doesn't work for everybody but which medicine does? It's proven highly effective in FDA clinical trials. Merck would be willing to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a way to deliver it without the horrible sides. Yet Devon is here trying to convince some baldies instead of selling his product to Merck. How you guys don't see through this scam is really beyond me.

[serenemoon]

I understand that you use tiny doses that usually shouldn't be a problem, but you said that there is something with your vehicle that is making it more efficient. You said that you had the same therapeutic effect of 140 units of insulin per week with just 6 units of insulin. If you had better therapeutic effect then maybe the possibility of side effects will also increase because of the specific properties of your vehicle.

The vehicle does not matter if 1-10ppm is all that is going systemic. Better therapeutic effect from a MUCH lower dosage does not mean "stronger sides." Think about it. If it went 1-10 ppm systemic through an injection (which is highly unlikely through injection, but for the sake of argument let's imagine it to be so) and if it went 1-10 ppm systemic through the transdermal delivery system, is there really a difference, since 1-10 ppm systemic =no sides?

[Justinian]

Finasteride IS a cure! Sure it doesn't work for everybody but which medicine does? It's proven highly effective in FDA clinical trials. Merck would be willing to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a way to deliver it without the horrible sides. Yet Devon is here trying to convince some baldies instead of selling his product to Merck. How you guys don't see through this scam is really beyond me.

I believe Medck determined that ease of use was more important to people than a chance of side effects. The people on this board are just a biased sample.

[tom12345]

Finasteride IS a cure! Sure it doesn't work for everybody but which medicine does? It's proven highly effective in FDA clinical trials. Merck would be willing to pay hundreds of millions of dollars for a way to deliver it without the horrible sides. Yet Devon is here trying to convince some baldies instead of selling his product to Merck. How you guys don't see through this scam is really beyond me.

Trying to convince all 50 posters to invest a hundred dollars for a few weeks of yay or nay? Guess he hit paydirt here!

[Arashi]

Trying to convince all 50 posters to invest a hundred dollars for a few weeks of yay or nay? Guess he hit paydirt here!

This thread has 200.000 views. Selling their scam for 6 months would make a decent bag of money.

[cr1mson]

This thread has 200.000 views. Selling their scam for 6 months would make a decent bag of money.

Laughable that your STILL calling this a scam and its not even on sale. Wait, let them run trials, and if it fails then bash them. If your hair looks anything like your avatar, pray to God that this works and they release it asap

[tom12345]

This thread has 200.000 views. Selling their scam for 6 months would make a decent bag of money.

50 people read all 112 pages onces. There's some ten and thousands of views for you. Lurkers looking for updates revisiting the thread every so often, that ups the count. People having posted and looking for replies every minute, so there's a few more views for you. It's not like it has 200.000 unique paying customers waiting to throw money at Follicept.

[Illusion]

This thread has 200.000 views.

About 50.000 are from Keki though

[Arashi]

Laughable that your STILL calling this a scam and its not even on sale. Wait, let them run trials, and if it fails then bash them. If your hair looks anything like your avatar, pray to God that this works and they release it asap

Did you follow yoram here? He operated the exact same way. He turned out to be a scammer though of course noobs like yourself where defending him till the very end. So, the only thing laughable here is your comment.

And if you don't even know where my forum pic comes from, then you are even more clueless than I figured.

[Helix]

Better therapeutic effect from a MUCH lower dosage does not mean "stronger sides."

I hope so, but how do you know that ?

Until we know how exactly they achieved better therapeutic effect we can't really be sure.