follicept - what's this?

[follicept]

Devon,
Question for you, but Ill understand if you do not have the answer yet.

If the product proves effective on humans, do you have any idea if it will loose its effect over time like minoxidil does? Ive heard that minox can help with hair growth up to a certain point, like maybe a few years. Didn't know if IGF-1's potency would taper off in time in the same way.

Thanks man! Safe travels this weekend

Not really sure, obviously. Have some theories, and we suspect it could be effective for quite a while, but of course time will tell... Thanks!

[follicept]

Don't know if anyone has responded to this yet but this obv never works. Even when this is being done by very trustworthy and objective forum members who also happen to make great photos for comparison, it still won't work because almost everyone on this forum uses at least something. It would be hard to determine whether results would be thanks to follicept or thanks to other treatments.

In order to do this, we would need members who haven't used anything for a long time (6 - 12 months is about right I think). Nobody is going to stop their current regime for a long time to try out some cosmetic hair growth product. Besides, this would take a long time anyway before they could even begin with this mini trial.

I get the idea of doing a mini trial to see whether it's legit or not but due to circumstances I think it's close to impossible to do such a trial in a way where we can safely conclude the results are purely due to follicept

Agreed. Some will have issues believing us no matter where/how we test...

[follicept]

I think that Devon can easily give a sample to Hellouser in order to try it. If it works on Hellouser, everybody will be happy and will support promotheon pharma all over the world !

Will advise...is Hellouser US based?

[serenemoon]

Arashi wants to help us, our community. I understand him and I respect him. But We can't tell (now) that Follicept is a scam until there are results... Yes, perhaps a member of Baldtuthtalk can test it (or many members too)... BUT I'm not agree with him in so many points.
Calling a product as a scam before there are some results and BEFORE they sell it
This is not a Liu's product or from the DR HSU (the other one ^^) with his shampoo for hairloss

Yes, Frenchnewby is a friend of mine of the French community (International Hairloss and Doctissimo). On forum doctissimo I am Ryuteam, and on the forum International Hair loss I am Noisette.

I am in the States, but I use google translate to read your forums. Have been so at least for the past two weeks or so. I like your forum, it is cool, very chill and funny I remember your username ryuteam. You are awesome for relating all the info to the French community

[FrenchNewbie]

LOL, like an IP means something these days. I used VPN's or TOR network to stream content that's IP locked, anyone these days knows how to do that. Give me a country and I'll post from that IP.

Furthermore, 'so now stop'. Tell me: why would a consumer NOT want an independent forum test ? Give me 1 good reason why a forum test, among 20 long term forum users (some will be on meds, which they will have to state, that will also be an excellent indication to see if the combo has any impact, some will not be on meds) is a bad idea.

You can't use Free by a VPN. You have a server adress. And i translated in the best french my last post. So now you can ask Noisette. He will tell you if i'm french or not. And if a moderator want, i can give him all the proof that i really exist.

I will not answer to your questions. I'm waiting like other members. You have to do the same thing.

Ps: @Noisette, je suis pas inscrit sur ces forums (doctissimo ou IHS). Ca me déprime plus qu'autre chose de les lire (j'y vais quand la déprime me guette lol). Je t'assure, je me suis inscris ici, parce qu'il y a vraiment un espoir cette fois je pense. Sinon, jamais je ne l'aurais fait. Je suis de ces gens qui ne préfèrent pas trop y penser.

[follicept]

LOL, like an IP means something these days. I used VPN's or TOR network to stream content that's IP locked, anyone these days knows how to do that. Give me a country and I'll post from that IP.

Furthermore, 'so now stop'. Tell me: why would a consumer NOT want an independent forum test ? Give me 1 good reason why a forum test, among 20 long term forum users (some will be on meds, which they will have to state, that will also be an excellent indication to see if the combo has any impact, some will not be on meds) is a bad idea.

So you're saying you're a scammer?

[follicept]

I am in the States, but I use google translate to read your forums. Have been so at least for the past two weeks or so. I like your forum, it is cool, very chill and funny I remember your username ryuteam. You are awesome for relating all the info to the French community

+1

[Arashi]

Calling a product as a scam before there are some results and BEFORE they sell it

Noisette, you've been around a while, how many scammers have we seen on this forum since you opened your account ? We've seen Dr Nigam, Dr Gho, Yoram, that Colombian company (well they weren't here, but they were discussed), that guy with this chlorox crap and probably more. All turned out to be scammers.

I can understand someone might be offended when being called a scammer without 100% absolute proof. And in fact, I might be wrong, I cant be 100% sure neither until we've seen results. But should Devon really be offended ? If I was Devon and I had a REAL product, I'd be even more determined to prove my self right when people would call me a scammer ! And it would most definitely not be a reason to leave this forum.

Anyway, let's forget about all that, let's focus on everybody's COMMON goal: to determine if this product is for real. It's good for us, the potential buyers, and it's good for follicept. Win-win for everybody !

[Arashi]

Also, let's say it doesn't work. At least Follicept then showed that they weren't afraid to do some independent testing ! So they weren't scammers. Their product failed, but at least they tried and thus should be highly respected ! And I'll be the first to make my well meant apologies for having called them scammers !

On the other hand, if they don't want a test they can't control, then it makes them even more suspicious.

[follicept]

Noisette, you've been around a while, how many scammers have we seen on this forum since you opened your account ? We've seen Dr Nigam, Dr Gho, Yoram, that Colombian company (well they weren't here, but they were discussed), that guy with this chlorox crap and probably more. All turned out to be scammers.

I can understand someone might be offended when being called a scammer without 100% absolute proof. And in fact, I might be wrong, I cant be 100% sure neither until we've seen results. But should Devon really be offended ? If I was Devon and I had a REAL product, I'd be even more determined to prove my self right when people would call me a scammer ! And it would most definitely not be a reason to leave this forum.

Anyway, let's forget about all that, let's focus on everybody's COMMON goal: to determine if this product is for real. It's good for us, the potential buyers, and it's good for follicept. Win-win for everybody !

...which is why I am still here. Though you can question efficacy without attacking my integrity. Skepticism is most effective with kindness- in any situation in life. Many users on here get that. Think of how the world might look if every single published paper/scientific advance was met with "this is a crock of crap get out of here you liar!". The scientific method was invented to reduce noise like yours (not your questions, which are valid). It is to say, interesting claim. Show me your results, tell me how you got them, and I will confirm your hypothesis. Which is what we will do.

[noisette]

I am in the States, but I use google translate to read your forums. Have been so at least for the past two weeks or so. I like your forum, it is cool, very chill and funny I remember your username ryuteam. You are awesome for relating all the info to the French community

Hey ! A brother from States who reads our forum It's very nice to learn that... There are some members on Doctissimo who are funny guys and pretty much friendly.

Arashi, I'm agree with, this is why I understand you and I know well you want to help us. You have a point. But, remember when Aaron Gardner comes here, he is vanished like a fart in the wind. I don't want the same for Devon... Because we don't know yet, if it is a scam...

I believe on their transdermal technology... Perhaps Devon can give samples for members here, in order to test it and confirm that it works.

FrenchNewby, I'm thinking you are Marselo on Doctissimo... but you follow us, and that this is great

[FrenchNewbie]

Arashi, all is suspicious for you. You can take the speech of Devon negatively. But i think, in this case, that we have a serious lab with Prometheon. Go check their historic. I don't know the other Dr. you quote. I never used any product. But i can say that this doctor has some success with diabetes. And it's a proof (for me) that they are serious.

[Arashi]

Arashi, all is suspicious for you. You can take the speech of Devon negatively. But i think, in this case, that we have a serious lab with Prometheon. Go check their historic. I don't know the other you quote. But i can say that this doctor has some success with diabetes. And it's a proof (for me) that they are serious.

Again, give me 1 good reason why we shouldnt do this test and I'll leave this thread, that's a promise to you

[GSD]

i also understand that arashi is a depressed bald guy who is very dissapointet. But claiming that someone is a scammer with no evidence is not fair. in europe this claim would easily end in a lawsuit.

greetings from germany

[noisette]

Again, give me 1 good reason why we shouldnt do this test and I'll leave this thread, that's a promise to you

No, Nobody should leave this thread, we are all in the same boat (real members I say). Again, I'm agree with you. We should have a test of Follicept, here, for some members like Hell' or Desmond, Artista, Swooping too lol (But Swooping have to kiss the bald spot of Devon for that )