follicept - what's this?

[Jagger]

Guys can we please stop calling Follicept a "scam"? It would be a scam if they intentionally lie to us and say it works and take our money.
They have done neither. They have not told us it works on humans. They have not asked for money. How is that a scam?
You have the right to be doubtful, lets just stop with the name calling please

I gave up trying to explain how name-calling and personal attacks don't help validate an argument about 50 pages ago. Best of luck picking up that torch. I suspect nothing will change until Follicept shows results one way or the other. And even then, you'll have certain members claiming the results are doctored or bullshit or...unless of course the treatment is proven not to work, in which case the negativity will be vindicated and then it's off to another thread to explain how no treatment will ever work.

[diffuseloser]

Some guys are seriously paranoid in here. Everything is a scam.

[DanWS]

Some guys are seriously paranoid in here. Everything is a scam.

This post is a scam. Someone from Follicept told you to write that.

[Clion1995]

Also, to the people like swooping, there's a reason behind the fact that you're not employed by Prometheon Pharma. Don't act like you're all high and mighty because you can argue with people on these forums and win. If you really were all that high and mighty, why aren't you employed to try and cure baldness? Again, Dr. Hsu's credentials take a shit on yours (Harvard graduate school).

[stayhopeful]

I stand with #teamfollicept

Looking forward to following your personal test Devon. Thanks very much for sharing with us

[diffuseloser]

This post is a scam. Someone from Follicept told you to write that.

Yeah and I was paid handsomely for it. Can't wait to rip all you suckers off.

[serenemoon]

I am sure this has been posted before, but let's see what these people that you are so quick to call "scammers" look like, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mo3F-Dgx0Q - They touch on hair growth here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWlSAKsmVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3-Nv4T6KRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPadjhuJonc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPadjhuJonc

What jerks they are :P

[stayhopeful]

#teamfollicept

[burtandernie]

I believe Medck determined that ease of use was more important to people than a chance of side effects. The people on this board are just a biased sample.

Yeah thats exactly right Merck had a poll and the majority of men wanted the oral route over topical. Just that simple. Would the topical have had less chance of sides? Not sure.

[Keki]

Don't trust them, i'm sure they will burn the lab and every evidence of the scam after they got our tasty 50$, seems they are like 5-10 in prometheon, i'm sure they are aiming for this 2k for each one thx the early batch before run

[burtandernie]

I was starting to think scam, but after seeing this I believe they are legit for now. Until this all works out though its still a little cart before the horse because theorizing something works for MPB doesnt mean it will. If it ends up working and they do a larger study I would buy it and believe it works to an extent. People selling snake oil wouldnt do this. Snake oil would toss up some bad pictures, some fake stories, and throw some common scientific jargon in there that people are familiar with like DHT, propecia, and some stuff people know works to give some confidence in their product.


"In pursuit of that, we will be doing a convenience sample asap on a handful of people, not much different than a backwoods experiment- "Hey Jimbo, 'mere. Try this crap out! I done made a concoction". We will show you those results as a courtesy. Those results will be as rigorously and consistently reported as they can be, but understand skepticism still at that point.

The results of that less rigorous (only because they are not randomized, blinded, or placebo controlled), convenience sample will tell us if it seems to be working or not, in very generous terms, and if it's worth spending a ton of time and effort and money to go forward with a larger trial.

This larger trial will be randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled, IRB approved, and statistically significant, and will yield data that we can publish in peer-reviewed journals. In other words, good science. We may or may not launch Indiegogo before or during this trial, just depending on what we are seeing. If I have said it once, I have said it a thousand times: scientific integrity is paramount, and we will not take your money until convinced it will be effects. Trust me, our standard of evidence is higher than yours. "

[serenemoon]

I am sure this has been posted before, but let's see what these people that you are so quick to call "scammers" look like, eh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mo3F-Dgx0Q - They touch on hair growth here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVWlSAKsmVQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3-Nv4T6KRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPadjhuJonc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPadjhuJonc

What jerks they are :P

Also, Dr. Hsu discussing the patch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QolNj_Diebg
Peep the ROGAINE in that video

[nameless]

But that's what follicept claims that they have a product that can deliver molecules without going systematic and thus no sides.

That is not exactly what Follicept is saying.

[nameless]

This guy is trying to make a buck out of desperate naive baldies like you, just like all the other scammers we (well you not) have seen here the last few years. Don't confuse that with a cure

For crying out loud can we please wait till some before and after pics before coming to conclusions?

[nameless]

If it works there's no reason for hair loss forums to exist anymore

But guess what the chances are? Arashi has already exposed other scams that were pushed in the past by a lot of the user praising follicept right now

Skeptics have a clean reputation. Sadly, there are no consequences for the other group that keeps pushing scams on hair loss forums

LOL! It's a lot easier for skeptics to have a clean reputation because curing hair loss is extremely difficult and many many attempts have failed. So all a skeptic has to do is attack any new treatment and odds are heavily in his favor that he will be right. But just because a treatment fails does not necessarily prove that the treatment is a scam. A scam would mean that the person selling the treatment knows that the treatment does not work and he's trying to cheat people. I believe that the evidence indicates that there is virtually no chance of that with Follicept. It will either produce new hair or it will end up in the dustbin of failed hair loss treatments. But even if it fails there may be new information learnt from the effort.