follicept - what's this?

[NeedHairASAP]

To each his own. For me it is a dealbreaker, I have a gf, and even if you don't getting with a girl sometimes requires you sleeping with her don't worry babe let me just put on my weird gel sleeping cap. No thx.

we'll see what you say when she leaves you for all us nw1 follicept bros

[EXprettyboy]

You honestly would rather lose your hair than wear a gel cap 3 times a week? Because you worry about that your gf would leave?

1) don't let her know, don't let anyone know.

2) wearing a cap is a small price to pay 3 times a week

[epipapilla]

And I think you overestimate what most people are willing to do for hair. Only like 1% of balding guys use anything at all. Wearing a cap with a head full of gel three nights a week is not gonna really fly on the mainstream market. Even rogaine foam is a pain in the ass, can't use it on my scalp without getting hair all gross.

I think you under-estimate what people are willing to do to regrow their balding hair! Take a look at all those guys who put bleach on their scalps, chlorine dioxide, without even knowing the consequences of using this substance on their heads....Many people are depressed and lack self-confidence because of hair loss. I am pretty sure that if you gave them the trade off of wearing a night cap in order to regrow their balding hair or staying bald that most of them will choose to wear the night cap.

But, I guess you fail to see this.

Anyhow, if this treatment eventually does come to market then the market will decide if wearing a night cap is feasible, not my or your opinions.

[Keki]

If it works and gives people back TERMINAL, real hairs people are going to use it with a day-evening and night cap don't worry. And i will be in debt with their team for the rest of my life, i can't believe for someone have a gel on the head 12 times for a cycle of treatment is "dealbreaker", put a lotion 2 times a day for the next 40 years is fine tou LOL

follicept you have my axe! I am waiting your early results before going to the doc for prescription, i want to believe!

[sdsurfin]

I think you under-estimate what people are willing to do to regrow their balding hair! Take a look at all those guys who put bleach on their scalps, chlorine dioxide, without even knowing the consequences of using this substance on their heads....Many people are depressed and lack self-confidence because of hair loss. I am pretty sure that if you gave them the trade off of wearing a night cap in order to regrow their balding hair or staying bald that most of them will choose to wear the night cap.

But, I guess you fail to see this.

Anyhow, if this treatment eventually does come to market then the market will decide if wearing a night cap is feasible, not my or your opinions.

The crazies on forums are a tiny subset of the population. I'm sure a lot of people won't mind doing things like wearing a cap, but if rogaine only attracts 1% of the population and is pretty damn effective, well, you get my point. People on here are not a good indication of general attitudes towards hair loss. I'm trying to help follicept cause I think they're onto something good, but business wise this aspect will be a big drawback for sure. I'd love to know if there's some way to avoid it.

[sdsurfin]

If it works and gives people back TERMINAL, real hairs people are going to use it with a day-evening and night cap don't worry. And i will be in debt with their team for the rest of my life, i can't believe for someone have a gel on the head 12 times for a cycle of treatment is "dealbreaker", put a lotion 2 times a day for the next 40 years is fine tou LOL

follicept you have my axe! I am waiting your early results before going to the doc for prescription, i want to believe!

What makes you think you wouldn't have to use this for the rest of your life too?

[joachim]

have to agree with sdsurfin. a gel cap is real no-go. but i would be ok to wear it sometimes in the evenings, or don't wear a cap at all but just let the gel on the head.

but this makes me wonder. the key of this treatment is the delivery system which i assumed should be very good. but if you have to let the gel on the head for several hours that would mean that the absorbtion is poor. on the other side, it could be key to let it not go systemic.

however, before talking about gel-caps etc. let's see if this thing works in the first place.

im very curious to see the progress here. those follicept guys are doing a great job. creating transparency and regularly coming here for a dialog with us is just the right strategy. the worst with all those hairloss researchers is that they keep us in the dark for years. the follicept team seems like a modern and fresh team, so that makes me optimistic. even if it turns out that the treatment doesn't work how it was supposed to, i have a lot of respect for that team. they are fair with us with sharing information, so we have to give them a fair chance too.

Devon, keep the great spirit! a big thanks to the whole team.
if this treatment rocks, you guys will really make history, and of course a lot of money.
my only advise: if you have a working product and receive offers from some big pharma guys or investors etc., don't let buy your souls for money. many products are bought and shelved in favor of other products. that sucks!
when you really have a working product all of you will be millionaires anyway. no need to let others buy your company and patents.
let's bring this miracle treatment to market a.s.a.p. and change the world for the better.

[Keki]

1 month, 3 days a week, even if i have to use it every 2 months for the rest of my life it's way better then 2 times a day

i can't read some posts, how can you compare a gel for 6 hours with HAVING HAIRS BACK, are you guys even balding? Are you feeling the pain and the disperation to see your identity falling on the ground every ****ig day? Wtf why you are even there if you don't want to be cured with an easy and not invasive treatment ARE YOU KIDDING ME? wow lol dealbreaker

[sdsurfin]

Because some of us don't equate hair with identity or self esteem. If I have to choose between hair and my gf thinking im vain ridiculous and insecure then Ill lose the hair happily. Bottom line especially when you're older losing hair is not the end if the world, so putting crazy shit on your head all the time is not worth it. And women don't give a shit about hair, but they do want a guy who is comfortable in his own skin. If I can discretely treat my balding and not talk about it it's not a prob, but wearing a hat to bed three days a week would guaranteed be a turn off, even if she didn't mention it to be nice. But hey like I said to each his own. I hope it can be used without a cap and with normal length hair cause if not it's pretty useless to me.

[Baby John]

Because some of us don't equate hair with identity or self esteem. If I have to choose between hair and my gf thinking im vain ridiculous and insecure then Ill lose the hair happily. Bottom line especially when you're older losing hair is not the end if the world, so putting crazy shit on your head all the time is not worth it. And women don't give a shit about hair, but they do want a guy who is comfortable in his own skin. If I can discretely treat my balding and not talk about it it's not a prob, but wearing a hat to bed three days a week would guaranteed be a turn off, even if she didn't mention it to be nice. But hey like I said to each his own. I hope it can be used without a cap and with normal length hair cause if not it's pretty useless to me.

Big mol weight, slow penetration. Occlusion probably required to get it in or it will just dry on the surface.

Wish there was more info on the driver. Hard liposome, unique carrier, combo of things?

When minox was initially studied, they used vasoline and shower caps or cling wrap to improve penetration.

The stuff I use on my hands and knee are useless w/o cling wrap, with it it works wonders.

Moot tho until the POC on humans is done...

[hellouser]

Big mol weight, slow penetration. Occlusion probably required to get it in or it will just dry on the surface.

Wish there was more info on the driver. Hard liposome, unique carrier, combo of things?

When minox was initially studied, they used vasoline and shower caps or cling wrap to improve penetration.

The stuff I use on my hands and knee are useless w/o cling wrap, with it it works wonders.

Moot tho until the POC on humans is done...

Dermaroll to open up the skin to allow bigger compounds to go through.

[sdsurfin]

If you have to wear something that tight it's gonna be impossible to have anything other than a buzz cut or it will damage your hair. Whole thing sounds wack. I'm pretty disappointed, I really like these guys. Hopefully there's some workaround.

[burtandernie]

Only a small percent of men treat hair loss because there are not any good worthwhile treatments. I know lots of men that do not like the idea of hormone altering long term that has chance of sexual sides. Can you blame them? Who wants to take a drug for life to still probably lose hair long term anyways not to mention the long term dangers there for a cosmetic thing.
If there was a standard safe treatment that worked well a lot more people would use it.

[mogro0022]

Maybe it's not so much a problem for the older guys to bald, but I can say for a fact that when your balding at the age of 19-20, it truly sucks. I hope however that if the only problem of not wearing a cap with this gel is getting it on your pillow, then at least we can alternatively put a towel over our pillow that we can change every night.

[x4342]

I agree with sdsurfin that forum members don't represent the average bald or balding guy. Your typical person isn't going to tolerate much. Spencer has talked about he was never typical and absolutely obsessed and willing to try and do whatever it took. Creams, ointments, massages, he would try anything. The run of the mill average guy won't tolerate a great deal of inconvenience. Minox and Fin have never been popular because the average guy isn't going to apply topicals or risk even the possibility of side effects for simple maintenance.
I think it comes down to efficacy in the end. If something is turning people from NW7 to teenagers the average guy will tolerate a great deal. If it's just a baby step only the hardcore will be interested.

Wearing a gel-cap because it turns you from a bald guy into a teenager? Yep, millions would do that. Wearing a gel-cap because it regrows a small amount of wispy hair? -Only the hardcore.