OC and setipip news

[Jasari]

Hm well if you say so... Maybe it's a difference between the inactive ingredients (brand vs generic) that affects how well the active ingredient can work or something like that? I believe that the inactive ingredients in generic aren't always the same as in brand. However, surely generic versions have to pass a certain requirements to be able to be sold (in other words, I assume they can't just put 1mg fin and fill the rest of the tablet with sugar and then call it "generic finasteride").

Honestly no idea. It sucks because propecia is way too expensive. It makes no sense either, but ive read a lot of cases similar to mine with a quick google search.

If the success of a treatment can come down to such a small detail, it highlights the fact that experimental treatments can potentially become significantly more effective with minor alterations I.e different vehicle etc

[Illusion]

I've had this same conversation with my doctor and honestly I have no answer for it. So my original method was propecia in a gelatine capsule.

Combined with a HT I went from Norwood 4 to a thick Norwood 2. I switched to generic and shed the top and even around the ears for some reason. Got back on brand name and regrew everything.

Around 6 months ago common sense told me "why am I paying double for the same thing" - I changed to generic and shed half my head of hair.

I'm now 3 weeks back on brand name inside a gelatine capsule (no idea what this does but I roll with it) and my shedding has stopped completely.

Long story short - I have no idea what the differance is but there is definitely something that drastically changes efficacy for me.

Hm well if you say so... Maybe it's a difference between the inactive ingredients (brand vs generic) that affects how well the active ingredient can work or something like that? I believe that the inactive ingredients in generic aren't always the same as in brand. However, surely generic versions have to pass a certain requirements to be able to be sold (in other words, I assume they can't just put 1mg fin and fill the rest of the tablet with sugar and then call it "generic finasteride").

[RU58841]

Yeah, I also got the email from Kane saying OC was on sale. Guess he's clued in to what's going on here.

For anybody who's interested (since it's hard to figure out where it is and their website's usability absolutely sucks) Kane's order page for OC is http://www.koutingchina.com/xddetailpro.php?id=1993 and Setipiprant is http://www.koutingchina.com/xddetailpro.php?id=3123.

Personally would rather wait a few weeks and see what TLR comes up with though.

[RU58841]

How would that be possible? I can see some logic behind shedding when you transition from fin to dut or from a low dose of fin to a high dose of fin, but switching brands? Fin is fin right?

I had read about that. Apparently some doctors worry about the authenticity of generics or something. There's at least the difference of the protective coating (to prevent the birth defect issue) on the Propecia brand pills that the generics don't have; beyond that, who knows.

When I was on the generic I switched to brand name but don't think I really noticed a difference. But Jasari apparently reports a difference in shed, so maybe it is a factor for some people.

[Jasari]

How would that be possible? I can see some logic behind shedding when you transition from fin to dut or from a low dose of fin to a high dose of fin, but switching brands? Fin is fin right?

I've had this same conversation with my doctor and honestly I have no answer for it. So my original method was propecia in a gelatine capsule.

Combined with a HT I went from Norwood 4 to a thick Norwood 2. I switched to generic and shed the top and even around the ears for some reason. Got back on brand name and regrew everything.

Around 6 months ago common sense told me "why am I paying double for the same thing" - I changed to generic and shed half my head of hair.

I'm now 3 weeks back on brand name inside a gelatine capsule (no idea what this does but I roll with it) and my shedding has stopped completely.

Long story short - I have no idea what the differance is but there is definitely something that drastically changes efficacy for me.

[Illusion]

So the recent shed is more than likely a result of changing fin brands.

How would that be possible? I can see some logic behind shedding when you transition from fin to dut or from a low dose of fin to a high dose of fin, but switching brands? Fin is fin right?

[NOhairNOlife]

So what's happening with this?

[Jasari]

I really don't think these are going to do much for regrowth. If you're losing half your hair in a few months you might want to consider just coming to terms with your baldness, that sounds pretty hard to combat. OC and setipip I think will be good for maintenance once we have an affordable source, Im scared dudes on here will buy it for a high price, give up because it is not regrowing tons of hair, and give it a bad rap. These are the kinds of finasteride alternatives that we need for young guys to keep the hair they have. I've never seen anyone lose half their hair in a few months, if that happened to me I'd probably just say f it Im a bald guy and move on, at least until some serious stem cell regeneration cures come into play.

I've had hairloss for 10 years now which has been stable for 5 - So the recent shed is more than likely a result of changing fin brands. I imagine it will come back with time.

If I can use this as a fin replacement though it would be perfect.

[Illusion]

But it's side effects are too much so I want to try alternatives

Have you never tried propecia because you're scared of sides or have you tried propecia and the sides were too much for you to handle? Because if it's the former (never tried propecia because you're scared) then man the **** up and try it. The chance of you getting irreversible or long lasting sides is very small (inb4 people saying "But I got them!!!!") and there's a much bigger chance you'll get great results with no to little sides.

For real, I don't get this whole attitude about scared for fin sides, you guys read way too many propeciahelp stuff. Sure if you get sides then drop fin but if you haven't even tried it, you're doing it wrong.

[ghostrider]

I really think the combination of Ru58841 + pdg2 + follicep will bring treatments to next level.

[dontwanttobald]

There is no other way apart from propecia. PGD2 is a hypothesis at this point, not the cornerstone of a treatment plan. Always start with proven treatments.

But it's side effects are too much so I want to try alternatives

[KO1]

When do you reckon we can get seti from tlr? I really want to maintain what I have and don't want to risk getting on propecia to do it

There is no other way apart from propecia. PGD2 is a hypothesis at this point, not the cornerstone of a treatment plan. Always start with proven treatments.

[dontwanttobald]

I really don't think these are going to do much for regrowth. If you're losing half your hair in a few months you might want to consider just coming to terms with your baldness, that sounds pretty hard to combat. OC and setipip I think will be good for maintenance once we have an affordable source, Im scared dudes on here will buy it for a high price, give up because it is not regrowing tons of hair, and give it a bad rap. These are the kinds of finasteride alternatives that we need for young guys to keep the hair they have. I've never seen anyone lose half their hair in a few months, if that happened to me I'd probably just say f it Im a bald guy and move on, at least until some serious stem cell regeneration cures come into play.

When do you reckon we can get seti from tlr? I really want to maintain what I have and don't want to risk getting on propecia to do it

[FeelsBad]

There is a group buy going on for setipripant? Can someone link me to the details?

[sdsurfin]

I really don't think these are going to do much for regrowth. If you're losing half your hair in a few months you might want to consider just coming to terms with your baldness, that sounds pretty hard to combat. OC and setipip I think will be good for maintenance once we have an affordable source, Im scared dudes on here will buy it for a high price, give up because it is not regrowing tons of hair, and give it a bad rap. These are the kinds of finasteride alternatives that we need for young guys to keep the hair they have. I've never seen anyone lose half their hair in a few months, if that happened to me I'd probably just say f it Im a bald guy and move on, at least until some serious stem cell regeneration cures come into play.