OC and setipip news

[hellouser]

I can't believe their main concern (Kythera) is developing a drug to reduce double-chin fat. I've got a cure for that, it's called going to the ****ing gym and eating a salad once in a while. Infuriates me that a potential cure for something so irreversible and debilitating as MPB is playing second-fiddle to something as pathetic as that.

Because feminism and matriarchy!

Welcome to the new world's priorities. Men's health is irrelevant.

[Dench57]

I can't believe their main concern (Kythera) is developing a drug to reduce double-chin fat. I've got a cure for that, it's called going to the ****ing gym and eating a salad once in a while. Infuriates me that a potential cure for something so irreversible and debilitating as MPB is playing second-fiddle to something as pathetic as that.

[Not giving up]

Any further news on any of this? This really is the meaning of 'hope' to someone just wanting to mantain in the early stages of loss.

[RU58841]

Up from $150/gram in their most recent newsletter. Although if it used to be $300 that's a slight relief.

[buck]

I thought that was down from $300/ gram…

[RU58841]

I e-mailed Kane about OC. He replied that a new batch will be ready in about 2-3 weeks and that the cost was $200/ gram. Does that sound right? At 1% every day or 2% every other day, that's over a three month supply.

They're up to $200/gram now? Jesus. This sucks, man. I've said this before: the solution is already out there and available, it's just too damned expensive.

[RU58841]

SD whatever happened to TLR, have you heard from them lately?

See this thread: https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/thread...ore-Selling-OC

tl;dr: TLR has reportedly been caught selling taurine disguised as other drugs.

[NeedHairASAP]

this thread is very interesting

[champpy]

Well Lukey, you are by far more well versed than I. Thanks man! I am using RU, fin, minox, salt water, carpet glue, bleach....hahaha you name it and im on it, and still losing also. Why not throw OC into the mix as well.

Can I ask if you got yours from Kane also? Does it mix the same way RU does, in ethanol and propylene glycol?

Please keep us updated with any results, good or bad

[lukey]

Can someone tell me if the OC is supposed to help with Regrowth or just maintaining existing hairs, and if its a better option than RU?

Hi Champpy, I've just started using OC but its too early to give any indication of results. Anecdotal evidence that I have read suggests its only for maintenance, but seeing as I have been on fin and minox and still slowly loosing I would be very happy with just maintenance from it.

OC attacks AGA from a different angle. It doesn't block or reduce DHT like RU so to say what is better is difficult, especially given how few people are using OC compared to RU (mainly because of the cost). I know very little about the science of how it is supposed to work but there's plenty info around on here somewhere as well as the other hair loss forums.

If you wanted to try something that isn't going to alter your DHT then give OC a go first, but it might be the case that it only works in combination with some form of DHT blockers. We don't know enough about it at the moment.

I hope my limited knowledge has been able to help in some way.

[champpy]

Can someone tell me if the OC is supposed to help with Regrowth or just maintaining existing hairs, and if its a better option than RU?

[mlamber5]

Not directly related to seti, but related to Cotsarelis
He is presenting at the World Hair Congress in November on this topic "Stem cells and Stem cell niches"
This is a pubmed article on the same topic by some Yale Biologists and geneticists, very interesting stuff...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3988239/#R91

[champpy]

Is OC supposed to be superior to RU? Sorry im very new to these treatments

[buck]

I e-mailed Kane about OC. He replied that a new batch will be ready in about 2-3 weeks and that the cost was $200/ gram. Does that sound right? At 1% every day or 2% every other day, that's over a three month supply.

[burtandernie]

I wonder how well this will work for prevention. As good as fin is its still not perfect and doesnt help some men at all. So maybe this will help a larger percent and maybe even work better at preventing hair loss at front/temples