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  • sellig
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    I still use RU and happy with it - maybe i am lucky but no side effect - i have no experience with Kane so i cannot help u there

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  • Yunaiba
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    So what happened with OC "sdsurfing"? Still having success?
    Anybody else using it?

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  • inbrugge
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    It's funny, there were many people here a couple of years ago saying RU was completely safe and it has no side effects as it would neutralize if it ever hit the blood stream.

    Now, people are saying it's unsafe and can have very serious side effects.

    All I can tell people is don't use any chemicals; Finasteride, Dut, RU, or whatever it may be. It's just not worth it. Don't play with your body's balance. We don't understand the pathway of balding yet, and attacking and cutting off completely DHT or other products of the body is completely idiotic and dangerous. It's like removing your teeth because you want to get rid of plaque. More importantly, if you mess up your hormonal balance, there is no known medical way to reverse it, so you'll be s*** out of luck.

    The success of these chemicals is not even well documented. There is no chemical that will magically reverse a NW6-7 to a NW0. At most you'll get is slow down or, if you're very lucky, half a norwood. The possible negative consequences outweight that by a very very very large multitude.

    If you want, save your money for a high quality FUE. That's about the only risk you should consider for your hair.

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  • robodoc
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    Be Smart

    Originally posted by sdsurfin
    Here is a post by someone on another forum. I have researched and double-researched the science on this, and we need to make OC the new standard in experimental treatments. This means either getting Kane to switch over price wise, or finding a new supplier. Any help would be appreciated. I have looked into RU, am using it myself, and can say the following- it absolutely affects your testes and prostate, and from what I've looked into , has a high chance of changing your androgen receptors and actually damaging your hair in the long run. OC and BIM are much better options, and we are being screwed because of the price. let's fix this. Stop ordering RU and let's maintain with something that has proven safety.





    "Use OC ethanol. SAME thing happened to me with the old version, but I attribute it to the use of DMSO which is an irritant like many say.
    Avoid DMSO.

    I dissolve the new OC (ethanol) in guess what..ethanol. I add a small drop of DIM (search it).

    It killed shedding.
    I started with 2% version, but 1% works ok too. You know it is working when the itching decreased and after the shedding decrease. It also reduces oil on the face (nice side effect).

    No other side effects other than maybe insomnia if you take late in evening.

    How many times do I have to say: I stopped losing hair, period. My hair is exactly the same as 1 year ago, and maybe a bit thicker on the crown but not in a way that would be very obvious on camera.

    Any other treatments? Yes I was on RU for 3 years, dropped it after 6 months from starting OC since OC did the job. I have been on minox for 10 years. I use it now and then.

    OC does not cause itching, it is DMSO. You don t have to use everyday, I went for a trip and stopped taking it for 3 weeks, only slight increase in shed.

    OC= no more hair loss, period. And I got it from Kane, and if you think I am advertising for Kane then please don't ask anymore questions (I Have other threads on OC so you can find your answers there). I am tired of having to explain to people how good it is and only return a month later to find that no one has tried it. WTF?!

    You would be better off with one application of OC a week rather than nothing...so OC can be cheap. "
    Don't use RU. It is unsafe and does not work, unfortunately.

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  • maddy17
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    What is OC?

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  • champpy
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    Thanks for the update tubzy. If you would ease let me know whe you qctually recive it that would be awesome. Since i cannot reach them via email im hesitant to order...

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  • nliyan25
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    Mixing

    So guys, which OC should I buy from Kane shop? And what should I be mixing it with? And how much should I be using on a day-by-day basis?

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  • TubZy
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    It took a while for mine to ship out but it finally did today

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  • champpy
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    Hey guys, Im planning on purchasing this weekend, but does anyone know if they have had trouble receiving their OC shipment from Kane recently. I tried to email him regarding a couple questions but cannot get a reply back

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  • champpy
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    oops forget my previous post, I just found the OC guide in another thread. Im going to give this a try soon as RU has really done nothing to stop the shedding after 1.5 months of usage

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  • champpy
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    Im thinking of giving this a try, but does anyone know exactly how to prepare?
    Would it be similar to the RU pre, Dissolve in Ethanol and add PG or Dimethyl Isosorbide as the carrier?

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  • Magster
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    FeelsBad,

    I would be guessing at this point. But I would think no longer then a week? But a week of intense itching, when you never had itching before, feels like eternity.

    It's crazy making trying to understand why it didn't continue to work. Acclimation? maybe.

    I guess I feel I was worse off from having tried it, but I do think that it's solubility issues was a big part of the problem. I am not too familiar with TM, but the water soluble part does make it seem more interesting...

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  • FeelsBad
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    That's so strange, you're not the first person I've heard say it stopped their shed and then stopped working. How long did it take for the itch to go back down after you stopped using it?

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  • Magster
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    sdsurfin,

    Are you using Zyrtec orally or topically? If topically, how do you filter out the excipients?

    I used both OC salt and OC ethanol. OC salt the original did halt my abnormal shedding in about two days. I really couldn't believe it. But it became a real issue to dissolve and use it in a consistent way. Shedding crept back up. The craziest part about the experience was the intense itching I would get when I tried to get off of it (I don't have issues with itching, only high shedding). I really got scared that the itch wasn't going to stop. All in all, it was a crazy ride.

    So, of course I had to try again with the ethanol version. There was still a very real problem with solubility. It did nothing to stop or slow down the shedding. I even asked Kane for my money back. Didn't hear from him after that. Haha. I backed off of buying from him after that for a long while.

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  • TubZy
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    I purchased the OC ethanol from Kane. I will be adding 10mg of OC along with usual 20MG RU to my 6ml neogenic capsule solution that I apply all 6ml to my diffuse thinning every night. Will shake and dissolve. I already do this every night. Neogenic is a good vehicle.

    My biggest issue is the annoying ass MPB itch. It wasnt bad when on minox but after dropping minox, RU can only minimize it so much I still get it.

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