Kythera Acquires Rights to PGD2 Blocking Setipriprant for New Hair Loss Treatment

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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    whats so special about " Kythera"? is that another five-forever years treatment?

    The company is worth $1B company-- so they have money and a good track record

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    • Scientalk56
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 280

      lol... Most treatments with scientififc background is five-forever treatments... so i guess its another bullshit..

      i have been following this forum since 2009 - MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.. and no five-years treatment has ever came to market.
      only Propecia and Minoxidil getting new designs.. lol

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      • walrus
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 298

        Originally posted by Scientalk56
        lol... Most treatments with scientififc background is five-forever treatments... so i guess its another bullshit..

        i have been following this forum since 2009 - MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.. and no five-years treatment has ever came to market.
        only Propecia and Minoxidil getting new designs.. lol
        Do you think science is bullshit then? ... lol

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        • Scientalk56
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 280

          Originally posted by walrus
          Do you think science is bullshit then? ... lol
          No, its just 20 years far..in best case scenario.. those are great news for my grandchildren.

          We need "finally a treatment got a fda apporval for treating baldness" news.. which we wont see..

          Back to minixidil and propecia..

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          • PatientlyWaiting
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1637

            Originally posted by Scientalk56
            lol... Most treatments with scientififc background is five-forever treatments... so i guess its another bullshit..

            i have been following this forum since 2009 - MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.. and no five-years treatment has ever came to market.
            only Propecia and Minoxidil getting new designs.. lol
            It's true, nothing ever comes out. Everything is always 5 years away.

            I will graduate college, get a master's degree, get a PhD, have a wife, kids, and the kids will grow up and have kids. And still, i'll come back to TBT 2-3 times a year and read about the next big treatment that is finally coming after Propecia/Rogaine. Which will be a drug that works like finasteride with no side effects...lol. Meanwhile, all the mice in the world are growing hair by just mixing water with Kool-aid powder and adding some chopped up onions in it. Because you know, everything grows hair on mice.

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            • LongWayHome
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 183

              Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
              It's true, nothing ever comes out. Everything is always 5 years away.

              I will graduate college, get a master's degree, get a PhD, have a wife, kids, and the kids will grow up and have kids. And still, i'll come back to TBT 2-3 times a year and read about the next big treatment that is finally coming after Propecia/Rogaine. Which will be a drug that works like finasteride with no side effects...lol. Meanwhile, all the mice in the world are growing hair by just mixing water with Kool-aid powder and adding some chopped up onions in it. Because you know, everything grows hair on mice.
              OMG man that was good! I actually laughed.
              "...All the mice in the world are growing hair by just mixing water with Kool-aid powder..."
              That's gold jerry! Gold!

              Sad, but true.

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              • sdsurfin
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 702

                You've been on here 5 years. wow. that is nothing. Your logic is flawed. Just because nothing has happened in those 5 years doesn't mean it won't. People were saint the same thing as you in the 90s, and then boom, propecia came out. it is effective, but not perfect. the next drug will also be effective, and maybe a bit more perfect. They have learned a lot about mpb in the last 5, and are now applying that knowledge. There are about 6 new treatments for AGA in the pipeline, as opposed to basically none 5 years ago. Intercytex and aderans failed because the science was not there yet, and their failure is a step along the way to a really huge stem cell fix that is still a bit off. I think you're quite wrong about not having anything else in five years though. Things do happen, just not according to our personal plans. They cured hepatitis C out of nowhere, as well as alopecia areata. You never know when something will work, and some things in trials now have a lot of promise. Your speculation that nothing is coming is no more accurate than saying "5 years". There is pretty much zero chance that nothing else will come in the next 20 years, that is just nonsense. I'm already using Adenogen from shiseido and it has equal efficacy to minox with no sides, so you're already wrong that there is nothing new. I would say that as soon as 3 years we could have a new maintenance treatment, and within 20 there will definitely be cell based therapies. If you educated yourself on the science, that becomes very clear.

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                • Hairismylife
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 383

                  Originally posted by sdsurfin
                  You've been on here 5 years. wow. that is nothing. Your logic is flawed. Just because nothing has happened in those 5 years doesn't mean it won't. People were saint the same thing as you in the 90s, and then boom, propecia came out. it is effective, but not perfect. the next drug will also be effective, and maybe a bit more perfect. They have learned a lot about mpb in the last 5, and are now applying that knowledge. There are about 6 new treatments for AGA in the pipeline, as opposed to basically none 5 years ago. Intercytex and aderans failed because the science was not there yet, and their failure is a step along the way to a really huge stem cell fix that is still a bit off. I think you're quite wrong about not having anything else in five years though. Things do happen, just not according to our personal plans. They cured hepatitis C out of nowhere, as well as alopecia areata. You never know when something will work, and some things in trials now have a lot of promise. Your speculation that nothing is coming is no more accurate than saying "5 years". There is pretty much zero chance that nothing else will come in the next 20 years, that is just nonsense. I'm already using Adenogen from shiseido and it has equal efficacy to minox with no sides, so you're already wrong that there is nothing new. I would say that as soon as 3 years we could have a new maintenance treatment, and within 20 there will definitely be cell based therapies. If you educated yourself on the science, that becomes very clear.
                  How much regrowth from Adenogen?

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                  • StayThick
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 624

                    Originally posted by sdsurfin
                    You've been on here 5 years. wow. that is nothing. Your logic is flawed. Just because nothing has happened in those 5 years doesn't mean it won't. People were saint the same thing as you in the 90s, and then boom, propecia came out. it is effective, but not perfect. the next drug will also be effective, and maybe a bit more perfect. They have learned a lot about mpb in the last 5, and are now applying that knowledge. There are about 6 new treatments for AGA in the pipeline, as opposed to basically none 5 years ago. Intercytex and aderans failed because the science was not there yet, and their failure is a step along the way to a really huge stem cell fix that is still a bit off. I think you're quite wrong about not having anything else in five years though. Things do happen, just not according to our personal plans. They cured hepatitis C out of nowhere, as well as alopecia areata. You never know when something will work, and some things in trials now have a lot of promise. Your speculation that nothing is coming is no more accurate than saying "5 years". There is pretty much zero chance that nothing else will come in the next 20 years, that is just nonsense. I'm already using Adenogen from shiseido and it has equal efficacy to minox with no sides, so you're already wrong that there is nothing new. I would say that as soon as 3 years we could have a new maintenance treatment, and within 20 there will definitely be cell based therapies. If you educated yourself on the science, that becomes very clear.
                    Until something if/eventually hits the market then your opinion is just that..your opinion. Nothing short of minox and fin is what we have available back then and now period.

                    Personally, I've seen countless threads since I've been a member here of all sorts of "potential" breakthroughs, pipeline, claims, etc. Guess what? Not one has ever been released or close to being released. Not one.

                    I won't hold my breath for this or anything short of improvements to the hair transplant industry. That is and will remain the only viable option to get permanently bye bye hair back on your scalp even if for a limited time.

                    Really don't care what you believe will potentially come out either because you just join the plenty that have created hope for those desperate on this forum for anything, anything to show promise, only to still be stuck with a penis wrecking pill and a foam that ages skin.

                    I wish you the best.

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                    • kmit028
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 30

                      well look at RU, it is really big now and readily available, and thats all a result of forums like this. So really that is what we can try and do with SET, or other such experimental treatments.

                      BTW, those negative posters like PatientlyWaiting, LongWayHome, StayThick, Hairismylife, why are you even in the experimental forum??? All you guys do is cry about hairloss. But never try to think outside the box and try to come up with a solution or alternative. Stop focusing on the problem and focus on a solution.

                      sdsurfin, good on you for trying to find a solution. Maybe it will work, prob wont, but at least we are trying something instead of just crying like babies and trying to disprove every far fetched idea

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                      • sdsurfin
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 702

                        Originally posted by Hairismylife
                        How much regrowth from Adenogen?
                        Having been using it long enough to know, and my hair isn't too bad, so it's hard to tell.
                        Topical cetirizine has completely stopped my mpb itch, but it dries my whole mouth and throat out.
                        We mell well be ****ed with nothing new on the horizon, but the opposite could be true as well. The PGD2 pathway is definitely real, and definitely has the potential to halt hair loss. I agree nothing is going to grow hair on bald scalp, but maintaining what you have is already possible with propecia, and will be possible with better alternatives soon I think. No one knew anything about hair loss ten years ago. they now at least know the basic pathways downstream of DHT activation, and that knowledge is bound to lead somewhere. I don't remember any new drugs being trialled for MPB in the near-past except RU, which actually does work to some extent and is being used by many despite lack of approval. Cell based treatments have failed so far because they weren't quite there with their knowledge.

                        I'm pretty sure that anyone who can handle cetirizine (and most people can use zyrtec without major sides) or can afford ramatroban already has a better alternative to minoxidil.

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                        • kaptainjack
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 11

                          I might just give cetirizine a try orally. It's available over the counter and costs next to nothing. Where I live they sell it in liquid form as well, and I wonder if it would be worth trying out topically.

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                          • StayThick
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 624

                            Originally posted by sdsurfin
                            Having been using it long enough to know, and my hair isn't too bad, so it's hard to tell.
                            Topical cetirizine has completely stopped my mpb itch, but it dries my whole mouth and throat out.
                            We mell well be ****ed with nothing new on the horizon, but the opposite could be true as well. The PGD2 pathway is definitely real, and definitely has the potential to halt hair loss. I agree nothing is going to grow hair on bald scalp, but maintaining what you have is already possible with propecia, and will be possible with better alternatives soon I think. No one knew anything about hair loss ten years ago. they now at least know the basic pathways downstream of DHT activation, and that knowledge is bound to lead somewhere. I don't remember any new drugs being trialled for MPB in the near-past except RU, which actually does work to some extent and is being used by many despite lack of approval. Cell based treatments have failed so far because they weren't quite there with their knowledge.

                            I'm pretty sure that anyone who can handle cetirizine (and most people can use zyrtec without major sides) or can afford ramatroban already has a better alternative to minoxidil.
                            I can respect your contribution to this forum and agree with majority of your points above.

                            Hopefully progress leads to treatments coming to fruition. That's my biggest thing. Let's see some treatments released, not press releases.

                            Much respect tho. I'm with you in this fight.

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                            • StayThick
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 624

                              M
                              Originally posted by kmit028
                              well look at RU, it is really big now and readily available, and thats all a result of forums like this. So really that is what we can try and do with SET, or other such experimental treatments.

                              BTW, those negative posters like PatientlyWaiting, LongWayHome, StayThick, Hairismylife, why are you even in the experimental forum??? All you guys do is cry about hairloss. But never try to think outside the box and try to come up with a solution or alternative. Stop focusing on the problem and focus on a solution.

                              sdsurfin, good on you for trying to find a solution. Maybe it will work, prob wont, but at least we are trying something instead of just crying like babies and trying to disprove every far fetched idea
                              You're an idiot. I don't spend my time crying about hairloss you Neanderthal. I'm in the camp that believes rubbing Chinese powders on your head in hopes to maintain a few follicles is not the route one should take. Yes, it's experimental and I have used RU personally, but that isn't the answer and comes with risk like anything in this category, but I digress.

                              My greater point is having legit approved treatments coming to market and enough with the false promises and press releases. People go on this section of the forum because there is nothing else outside of a Propecia and Minox that can help with their situation. This section is in existence for those willing to rub experimental Chinese powders on their head in hope that any studies conducted on the substance (if any) can have any impact on their hair.

                              We have no viable option now then we did decades ago to treat this condition. Period.

                              You can post about any herb and powder you want on this thread for home mixture. I wouldn't get mad at you, but I would shake my head. I frequent this forum for information on ANY potential legit treatments with potential releases to market...if that ever happens.

                              Nobody is crying here. I know what's reality and I sure as hell know what's available to treat my hairloss at the moment..and it's nothing in this section.

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                              • sdsurfin
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 702

                                Originally posted by StayThick
                                M

                                You're an idiot. I don't spend my time crying about hairloss you Neanderthal. I'm in the camp that believes rubbing Chinese powders on your head in hopes to maintain a few follicles is not the route one should take. Yes, it's experimental and I have used RU personally, but that isn't the answer and comes with risk like anything in this category, but I digress.

                                My greater point is having legit approved treatments coming to market and enough with the false promises and press releases. People go on this section of the forum because there is nothing else outside of a Propecia and Minox that can help with their situation. This section is in existence for those willing to rub experimental Chinese powders on their head in hope that any studies conducted on the substance (if any) can have any impact on their hair.

                                We have no viable option now then we did decades ago to treat this condition. Period.

                                You can post about any herb and powder you want on this thread for home mixture. I wouldn't get mad at you, but I would shake my head. I frequent this forum for information on ANY potential legit treatments with potential releases to market...if that ever happens.

                                Nobody is crying here. I know what's reality and I sure as hell know what's available to treat my hairloss at the moment..and it's nothing in this section.

                                How come you're not on ru anymore? Are any of you guys on steady ru with success? Thinking of trying it out.

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