We have a vehicle for CB-03-01: VERSAPRO

[Jonathan]

I've used cb for about a year and a half earlier, and am pretty convinced that it's the way to go! Would ve happy to help test this new solution.

Why did you quit last time?

[Rodfarva]

I've used cb for about a year and a half earlier, and am pretty convinced that it's the way to go! Would ve happy to help test this new solution.

[diffuseloser]

Guys, just got a reply from Anagen Inc. for the questions I asked RE: CB 03 01. See below...

"Thanks for your attachments, we will forward to kane, he'll deal with it. as for cb, we have it on stock, however not possible to sell by paypal, you have to contact kane, and payment only possible by western union/ mail.

its Cortexolone 17AP yesthe right form, its been 3'd party tested by some customers on forums. its crystalline form 3. our R&D department has committed HPLC/NMR + Infra red testing as to ensure the right FORM. the chemists follow the data patent."

[Justinian]

You have to e-mail Kane, but they supposedly have it.

It's likely pretty expensive, if we mixed 2g into 100g Versapro, how many applications would this support?

Also, how can we get it tested for purity? I googled "independent lab" by me but couldn't find anything. Do you have to know somebody with connections to get this done?

[hairbackpls]

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[comb0ver]

Desmond, you made so much for us already so I feel like an idiot for asking. But since you got the credibility and the knowledge, would it be possible for you to mix a huge bowl of this cream + CB before you send it out to the forum members, with the criteria that everyone that orders from you also post weekly pictures? It would be such a great trial.

Of course we should all then prepay you using prices that makes it all worth it for you.

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[Jonathan]

Check how much it costs to send it to your country. For example, it costs $18.20 to send it to UK. Let's get some numbers of how many we need and I'll order them in and can send it out if you guys like

Desmond, you made so much for us already so I feel like an idiot for asking. But since you got the credibility and the knowledge, would it be possible for you to mix a huge bowl of this cream + CB before you send it out to the forum members, with the criteria that everyone that orders from you also post weekly pictures? It would be such a great trial.

Of course we should all then prepay you using prices that makes it all worth it for you.

[diffuseloser]

It would depend a lot on the length of your hair. You'd want to ensure the affected areas of your scalp are saturated with the solution. I know from using minoxidil that I have to apply more than the recommended 1ml each time as 1ml doesn't cut the mustard and areas of the scalp are missed. I'm guessing anywhere between 2ml and 5ml of this solution should be sufficient. Also, Desmond, I'd be happy to throw you a few quid extra for your troubles in supplying Versapro. The main issue here is where are we going to get our CB from and how pure is it going to be? Also, is it going to be in the correct format that Desmond has described that enables us to use it with Versapro.

[balding1983]

Desmond, do you think we could use this vehicle for Finasteride powder?

[Jasari]

I'm currently on Finasteride but it's doing nothing. I'll try this out. My only question is dosage - Once we mix 2g of CB with 100g of the cream base, how much are we actually applying?

Edit: Topical fin with this base might also be something to look into.

[hopeeman]

How much would CB and versapro cost per month?

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[hairbackpls]

How much would CB and versapro cost per month?

[diffuseloser]

Thanks Desmond. Count me in. I wonder would this vehicle also be effective with RU? If I'm going to be paying out for CB, I want to make sure it's the good stuff in the right format, so I won't be ordering any from Kane/Anagen Inc. until these concerns are
addressed. I may give it a go with RU in the meantime. Can't wait to try this and see what develops. It's about time we all had some good news. All we can really do is work together and keep plugging away until we find something that works. Chin up everyone.

[sdsurfin]

Good luck, I'll be watching. I am not at all sold on the idea that some random chinese guy is making the right chemical. Desmond I have a question- Did you mention to your colleague that the CB wasn't working with other vehicles? I have doubts that the vehicle was ever the issue. would it make sense that CB wouldn't work with what people were using before? Also, if people are going to spend money on this stuff there should really be a concerted effort to make sure that it's the real deal in the right form(the CB i mean). I don't even know if that is possible, i and i have doubts that cosmo is releasing all their information. we already know there are 2 different forms of CB, who's to say they haven't worked on their own form of it and are keeping that secret? one little change in a molecule and it becomes totally different in its effectiveness. Lastly, could fin be mixed into this vehicle? I wouldn't mind giving that a try, as I have suspicions that finasteride is much less harmful to the body if you apply it topically. I know it still gets into the bloodstream, but the way and the locations that it inhibits 5AR might be different depending on the delivery and time it takes to get around your whole body.

[Desmond84]

Im excited as well! Thanks for all your efforts much appreciated. I really hope this works. I will be contacting a couple compounding pharmacies in Toronto tomorrow to see if they can sell me some versapro cream

That's amazing. Please post back here with the outcome.

By the way guys, someone just mentioned about the vehicle being a cream and it's pros and cons when using it on long hair. I fully understand using a cream on the scalp is not ideal and it definitely isn't a perfect vehicle. But it's the best we can do for the time being. On the plus side, it seems to have high vanishing properties and amazing penetration. Furthermore, We're only applying it ONCE A DAY anyway. Just apply it at night and wash it off in the morning. No one will even notice it LOL

In the Cosmo's ionopheresis trial, the androgen receptors remained blocked for ONE WEEK after a single application, so I'm pretty certain using it ONCE DAILY should be sufficient.