Lets Get CB-03-01 DONE. We are SO close.

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  • inbrugge
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 244

    #46
    Put me down for crowdfunding. But, in terms of scienc or research, I'm not really well versed for that. I believe though there are others who are knowledgable on thay stuff on here.

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    • Paul73
      Member
      • May 2014
      • 64

      #47
      Desmond and Hellouser are very well informed about these things. Their imputs and insights would be very important to start this project.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #48
        Originally posted by Paul73
        Desmond and Hellouser are very well informed about these things. Their imputs and insights would be very important to start this project.
        Any crowdfunding effort should be executed with the intent of a full cure. Anything short of that is a waste of the publics time. They won't donate to a petty treatment.

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        • Justinian
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 148

          #49
          If the acne product passes Phase III trials and is for sale, could that accelerate the hair loss product in any way since the chemical has already been deemed safe to use for topical use? I know Phase III is needed in order to determine efficacy, but could they sell CB for hair loss before that? They definitely wouldn't be able to advertise it for hair loss without Phase III, but would they have to finish the Phase III to sell it?

          Also, will CB for hair or acne be available in Europe or anywhere else before the USA?

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          • efedrez
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 168

            #50
            Originally posted by hellouser
            Any crowdfunding effort should be executed with the intent of a full cure. Anything short of that is a waste of the publics time. They won't donate to a petty treatment.
            I have to disagree with that, Eventhoug a full cure is our holy grail, investor and our community have to be realistic about the stage of current researchs and understand that there would be a lot of benefits in a better treatment with no side effects.

            I'll be more than willing to invest in a better treatment if there was a serious option and needless to say I would use it in a second

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            • joachim
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 559

              #51
              Originally posted by hellouser
              Any crowdfunding effort should be executed with the intent of a full cure. Anything short of that is a waste of the publics time. They won't donate to a petty treatment.
              i wouldn't see this as a big public crowdfunding campain. it's more an intra-forum campain to pay a professional lab for helping us to find a vehicle only. i don't think this would require more than 50.000 bucks. this is nothing for us forum members. if we can reach out to all forums (HLH, ***, HS, etc.) we would have that money very fast, because all of us are waiting for CB as we already know about its potential. no need to start a big and complicated crowdfunding at all. we don't even need a website for that. if CB is able to at least halt further loss, then this is a game changer for all of us. but waiting for cosmos official release is a pain in the a.s.s.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #52
                Originally posted by joachim
                i wouldn't see this as a big public crowdfunding campain. it's more an intra-forum campain to pay a professional lab for helping us to find a vehicle only. i don't think this would require more than 50.000 bucks. this is nothing for us forum members. if we can reach out to all forums (HLH, ***, HS, etc.) we would have that money very fast, because all of us are waiting for CB as we already know about its potential. no need to start a big and complicated crowdfunding at all. we don't even need a website for that. if CB is able to at least halt further loss, then this is a game changer for all of us. but waiting for cosmos official release is a pain in the a.s.s.
                50,000 isn't exactly peanuts. It's a ton of money and the exposure WILL spill over to the general public. It's a big amount for the hair loss community forums to donate; a lot of, if not most people WON'T donate. This isn't me being a debbie downer pessimist, it's just the reality that people are generally useless. Don't get your hopes up.

                You also need to look at the numbers. Let's say we needed anyone and everyone to donate just $10.00 US, you'd then need 5,000 people donating funds. That's a BIG audience to target.

                The forums have tens of thousands of members altogether;

                33,000 on BTT
                48,000 on ***
                etc.

                Of those, how many are active? Of those active, how many will see the news about the initiative? Of those, how many will bother to read about it? Of those that read about it, how many will donate? Of those that will donate, how many will donate a sufficient amount?

                I'm not condoning the complacency of the hair loss community, in fact I've called out the community many times before that we really only have ourselves to blame for the lack of treatments, progress, cure and especially the continued acceptance of Finasteride as being a 'good enough' treatment. If more of us took the initiative like Dr. Angela Christiano, we'd have long solved this god damn disease... but that hasn't happened for the past 20 years since Finasteride has been on the market.

                Anyway, my motto is;

                Go big, or go home.

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                • TimJermaine
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 22

                  #53
                  Maybe we should start a separate thread asking active users to reply with an amount they'd be willing to donate with? What do you guys think of that? I'd easily chip in a few hundred.

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                  • lifelonglearning
                    Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 69

                    #54
                    If 500 member donate 100 dollars then that would be enough ... I think the challenge is finding a lab to do it , and one that can assure a successful result .

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                    • inbrugge
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 244

                      #55
                      We have to start by making a clear plan. If not no one will donste. We could even make a kickstarter or something. I'm willing to put close to 250. Heck, that's an order of RU from kane.

                      So what are our pathways and targetss?

                      1. Use iso device. Where to buy, how much?
                      2. How to deliver with iso device? What are the roadblocks?
                      3. As far as I understand, we need a vehicle for iso device as well?
                      4. For vehicle to be succesful, it has to be adjusted accordingly to CB's polarity?
                      5. Who and what do we need the get these answers?
                      6. And who can test and verify the validity of our findings? At the end of the day, we would NEED before and after pics. No one will want to try such a complicated set-up unless they are either really desperate (like us lol) or unless there is a good level of results.

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                      • inbrugge
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 244

                        #56
                        Also, you guys should check out the low systematic exposure thread. It is relevant to CB as well I believe. If they have a good system of delivery, then that would also work just as well.

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                        • Desmond84
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 987

                          #57
                          Hey guys, sorry for being away for so long. Life's been hectic! How's everyone? Is everyone psyched about CB-03-01 or what? Any recent news?

                          I'm still waiting on Dr Lindner's website to launch. It's taking way longer than I thought! Plz give me some news lol...

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                          • Hairismylife
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 383

                            #58
                            Hi Desmond welcome back

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                            • balding1983
                              Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 45

                              #59
                              Hi Guys,
                              I'm new the forum but I have been a lurker for a while.
                              Will CB-03-01 be really as effective as they said in the study if it ever gets released. They used a rather specialised delivery method and got great results. But in reality can normal people be expected to use a dedicated ionophoresis machine at home to apply this stuff?
                              I'm trying to plan a HT and hopefully this will get released within 3 years. If it does work as stated in the POC study then will if negate the need for further transplants? Furthermore, being a weak steroid can we use this long term?

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                              • g2047
                                Junior Member
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 1

                                #60
                                I would donate $1000

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