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zeos they didn't respond to me. I sent info all over the place. I never stop trying.
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ok,do me a favour and send the email to the clinic and the laboratory one more time on wednesday at 10:00 am-12:00 pm athens time ( http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/greece/athens ) ,i will call them in the afternoon or the next day and ask them if they have received your email,give me only the title of your emailComment
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Happy to. Please give me their email addresses again, and again tell me exactly what you want me to tell them about. I ask what you want me to tell them about because I have to go through my "sent" box to find the correct emails I already sent to them and since I send out a lot of emails it would help my search if you told me what is the subject matter I am looking for to re-send.Comment
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read my post here:
it's important to send them the same email,if i'm right you sent them the email(clinic + laboratory) between 09-25-2014 and 09-27-2014,search your ''sent'' box and give me the subject-title of your emailComment
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Zeos I contacted theracell by way of their site's contact form. Here is the proof I contacted them - they responded saying they got my inquiry but they never answered my inquiry:
Thank you for contacting Theracell.
A member of our team will contact you soon regarding your inquiry.
For your records we forward you the details of your message.
Your email: Russell-claudia2011@hotmail.com
Your telephone: ###############
You are a: A health care professional
Subject: Adipose Derived Stem Cells & hair growth
Message Body:
I’m seeing more and more that people are injecting adipose derived stem cells into the scalp to treat hair loss. I’m wondering if adipose derived stem cells would even stay locally in the scalp where they are injected or if they would disperse out of the area?? If they don’t stay in the scalp then they can’t ameliorate hair loss. If they leave the scalp area then they can’t promote hair growth in the scalp. Please respond.
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This e-mail was sent automatically because you sent an inquiry through a contact form on Theracell's web site. Please do not reply to this message.Comment
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Here is a copy of an email I sent to info@vitamelia.gr:
Dear Vitamelia
I read about your hair loss treatment to implant fat stem cells (adipose derived stem cells) from fat and then implant the cells into scalp where hair is thinning. But if you implant fat stem cells into the scalp they could migrate out of the scalp and instead travel through the entire body. But if instead of injecting the fat stem cells you inject the growth factors and proteins instead that could solve the problem. There is a south Korean company that makes a produce called AAPE that I wish you would consider offering to hair loss customers like me. Here is a study article about AAPE and the study tells the name of the South Korean company where you can get AAPE. Please read this study and please offer AAPE injections to hair loss customers like me. Here is the study:
Please consider acquiring the AAPE from the south Korean company and mixing it with other ingredients just like the doctors in the study did. Please put together the exact same formula from the exact same company because this formula worked well for all of the patients.
The things about the fat stem cells is that after they are injected into the scalp they don't stay in the scalp. They leave the scalp and travel throughout the body. Once the fat stem cells leave the scalp they no longer excrete their growth factors and proteins into the scalp area. But AAPE is the same growth factors and proteins that the fat stem cells excrete so if you inject AAPE instead of the fat stem cells then you will get the right growth factors and proteins into the scalp. AAPE is the same growth factors and proteins that the fat stem cells excrete so by injecting AAPE into the scalp you won't need to inject the fat stem cells because AAPE is the same growth factors and stem cells. So Just use AAPE and the other ingredients that the doctors in the study used and then you won't have to inject the fat stem cells and you won't have to worry that the fat stem cells travel out of the scalp.
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Sometimes I send them my requests by using the contact forms at their site. I just sent Dr. Athanasios Christopoulos another message using his site's contact form. Here is the message I just sent him:
I read about your hair loss treatment implanting adipose derived stem cells into balding scalp. These cells could migrate out of the scalp. But if instead of injecting the cells you inject the growth factors and proteins that could solve that problem. There is a south Korean company that makes a product called AAPE and I would like you to offer to hair loss customers. Here is a study article about AAPE. The study tells the name of the South Korean company where you can get AAPE:
If you will start offering AAPE please and mix it with other ingredients the same as the doctors in the study did. And also please add platelet-derived growth factor-D (PDG-D) since it appears to increase growth. Here is an article about that:
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I just sent messages to 3 different places. I sent a message to theracel, Dr. Athanansios Christopoulos, and info@vitamelia.gr
I got all of these contacts from you. It is now 5:57 PM on the Washington state coast where I live. I'm north of Oregon and California on the west coast of the USA in case you want to know my geographical location. I sent them these messages between 5:30 PM and 5:57 PM Pacific Coast time.Comment
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I think that based on Alias's link to a study about platelet-derived growth factor-D (PDG-D) these doctors should think about adding this substance. It increased hair growth dramatically. What do you think of platelet-derived growth factor-D (PDG-D).Comment
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Nameless can I get your contact details since I'm going there we could talk to them, I was supposed to go there 2 weeks ago but had to much studies! So I'm going in 2/3 weeksComment
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@nameless
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they haven't received anything it seems their site's contact form has a problem,
so they gave me a new address, send a new email to info@theracell.gr ,
but please rewrite your text and add more information(everything you have),i told you to include in your emai also the vitamelia site(in greek and translated in english)so that they can understand what are you talking about and ask them what are they offering :AAPE or ADSC(this is the key question)
and the best part ,they told me you should give them also your telephone number after reading your email they will call you immediately back
- clinic :
same as above,they haven't received anything it seems their site's contact form has also a problem,
so they gave me a new address, send a new email to anaplasis@a-a.gr ,
but please rewrite your text and add more information(everything you have),i told you to include in your emai also the vitamelia site(in greek and translated in english)so that they can understand what are you talking about and ask them what are they offering :AAPE or ADSC(this is the key question)
after reading your email they will will respond to you within the next few days,they told me also if you have further questions you can call them(there are no language barriers),the secretary will arrange a telephone appointment with the doctorComment
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I do not understand what you are saying about the email addresses.
* For example, are you saying that info@theracell.gr , is an email address with or without the comma at the end after an extra space?
* Also, I don't understand what you are saying about vitamelia.Comment
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zeos, My computer internet service provider hasn't been working for days so I haven't been able to re-send the information to the clinics and labs.
After thinking about it I've decided that it would be best if you sent them the emails. I have sent them emails repeatedly and they aren't responding to my emails. And now you are giving me new emails to re-send the emails that I have already sent multiple times. Frankly, I'm tired of sending the same emails to the same people over and over and over again. Plus, I don't fully understand your instructions how to send them the emails again anyway. You should just send the emails since they are not getting my emails.
In your emails tell them this:
I read about that you treat hair loss by implanting adipose derived stem cells into balding scalp. But I have it from a leading authority that if you implant adipose derived stem cells these cells could migrate out of the tissue that they are injected into. I wrote an email to the famous OKYANOS HEART INSTITUTE in The Bahamas and asked them about this issue and here in quotations is the email they sent to me:
"ADRCs as well as mesenchymal cells (MSCs) from bone marrow,when delivered in the heart as well as other tissues and organs have generally migrated out of the target tissue after about three days though some can be found up to about five weeks. It is important to note that the primary way these cells regenerate and repair is through cell-to-cell signaling (paracrine effect). The cells can and do turn into other cells. That is why they are called adult stem cells. The differentiate into adipose, bone, cartilage etc. The cells “know” what tissue is needed so in the case of the heart they differentiate into heart muscle cells (cardiomyocytes). It is also important to note that while ADRCs have been found to grow new cardiomyocytes they are not enough to build new muscle but they appear to assist in improving pumping function. The most important mechanism for cardiac and other wound repair found with ADRCs is the growth of new blood vessels (angiogenesis). These new bloods vessels support the main arteries and bring more blood and oxygen to the lungs so the person can breathe better per the PRECISE trial (see data on maximum volume of oxygen consumption –mVO2).
What makes ADRCs “better” is that they have been found to be more abundant with cells that are more directly capable of stimulating the growth of new blood vessels as well as cardiomyocytes and are more potent later in life that bone marrow cells."
So the problem is that if you inject these adipose derived stem cells into the scalp they will probably migrate out of the scalp area rapidly. But there appears to be a solution. Instead of injecting the adipose derived stem cells you could instead inject the growth factors and proteins that the adipose derived stem cells excrete. These growth factors and proteins are the substances in the adipose derived stem cells which cause hair to grow anyway so why not simply inject the growth factors and proteins instead? In either case you would have to do repeated injections once every couple weeks until the hair is satisfactorily improved, and then perhaps once ever 4 to 6 months for maintenance after the hair is satisfactorily improved. But if you do repeat injections of adipose derived stem cells that would be very costly and it might not work because the cells migrate out of the scalp area so rapidly. But if you simply inject the growth factors and proteins that would give the follicles a good bath of these growth factors and proteins, and the growth factors and proteins are much more economical to acquire and inject.
Below is a study which tells all about the efficacy of these growth factors and proteins. In this study it will even disclose where you can get the solution of these growth factors and proteins from a Seoul South Korean company called Prostemics Co, Ltd (Seoul, Korea). The substance is called AAPE. The study also explains that the doctors in the study used some other hair nourishing ingredients in combination with the AAPE (from the Seoul Korea company) to create a mixture they called HARG. I think it would be best to inject HARG once every 2 weeks perhaps until hair acquires satisfactory improvement and then once every 4 - 6 months after that for maintenance.
If you will start offering this HARG treatment please let me know . And also please add platelet-derived growth factor-D (PDG-D) since it appears to accelerate growth. Here is an article about
how adding platelet-derived growth factor-D (PDG-D) to AAPE accelerates hair growth faster than AAPE alone.
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''I read about that you treat hair loss by implanting adipose derived stem cells into balding scalp''
how do you know?
did you read the vitamelia site carefully?
''A new medical technique for hair regeneration using stem cells solves in men and women with thin hair and thinning. Treatment is based on the isolation of a large number of proteins, which are released from the stem cells of fat. .....''
before assuming that they are offering ADSC we should ask them first what treatment is offered at the clinic-laboratory: ADSC or AAPE ?
rewrite your email and i will send it for you but for further questions you will contact them(email,telephone etc...)because you have the knowledge of the issueComment
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