WCHR 2014 Presentations (Community-funded)

[walrus]

What I mean, is that if we're funding him, he should be on minimum wage until we see results. UNLIKE now. Which seems to be that researchers (and this is something I picked up on from @hellouser) is that they seem quite comfortable researching and NOT taking things to market.

So up until now, these researchers get their nice cars and hollywood homes, under my funding regime they would have minimum wage UNTIL they deliver. Which is how it should be.

Nonsense. Do you honestly think that (hypothetically) paying minimum wage would attract the brightest minds that are necessary to carry out this kind of biological research? Any number of menial jobs that don't require a PhD would pay more. This would be one sure fire-way to ensure that MPB is never cured.

Also, if you think that research jobs typically pay well enough to have 'nice cars and hollywood homes' you are severely misinformed.

[hellouser]

It's almost 11 o'clock over there, maybe he's done for today :S

Nah, Dr. Lindner gave him a full head of hair and he's gone out picking up Korean women.

[20goingon50]

out of interest guys.

If Desmond said there is going to be a definite 100% cure in 2020/21

Or a strong product that would 100% keep all hair on your head and regrow say 25% lost hair in 2016, but no complete cure until 2028.

Which would you personally choose?

[hellouser]

Nonsense. Do you honestly think that (hypothetically) paying minimum wage would attract the brightest minds that are necessary to carry out this kind of biological research? Any number of menial jobs that don't require a PhD would pay more. This would be one sure fire-way to ensure that MPB is never cured.

Also, if you think that research jobs typically pay well enough to have 'nice cars and hollywood homes' you are severely misinformed.

Even if they do pay a lot, guys like Cotsarelis are way too busy to enjoy those things anyway.

[hellouser]

out of interest guys.

If Desmond said there is going to be a definite 100% cure in 2020/21

Or a strong product that would 100% keep all hair on your head and regrow say 25% lost hair in 2016, but no complete cure until 2028.

Which would you personally choose?

Both.

[fuzzyballs]

Nonsense. Do you honestly think that (hypothetically) paying minimum wage would attract the brightest minds that are necessary to carry out this kind of biological research? Any number of menial jobs that don't require a PhD would pay more. This would be one sure fire-way to ensure that MPB is never cured.

Also, if you think that research jobs typically pay well enough to have 'nice cars and hollywood homes' you are severely misinformed.

Unless you've been living on another planet for the past 10 years you MIGHT have noticed that we have already been paying the brightest minds top dollar to work on a cure and guess what... we don't have a cure. I'm sorry, but maybe you're not catching on... the current way of doing things is not working.

And to be frank I'm not talking about the lowly scientists working on puny govt wages on how to solve things we here don't care about. But I'm talking about rich research companies like Follica and Aderans that are funded by some of the wealthiest venture capital firms on the planet. Oh and whats that? No cure yet? Hrmmmm.....

So I'll say it again. Researchers in this field should ONLY be paid the true rewards (and I do mean wealth) on results.

[Thinning87]

What I mean, is that if we're funding him, he should be on minimum wage until we see results. UNLIKE now. Which seems to be that researchers (and this is something I picked up on from @hellouser) is that they seem quite comfortable researching and NOT taking things to market.

So up until now, these researchers get their nice cars and hollywood homes, under my funding regime they would have minimum wage UNTIL they deliver. Which is how it should be.

Furthermore anybody who's familiar with with crowd funding is that the pledgers get something in return.

If Cotsarelis is so confident that he can make something we should ALL get free cure for making him a many times over multi-million-billionere. Of course that isnt going to happen... so who really cares what you think. Or what he says.

Tss you're just very confused and angry because your ht went bad. I'm gonna shave my head like I have already done, and am here for the news only. So I want something real to be done.

You as yourself have not given researchers of hairloss a single dime of your own money so you shiuldnt act like you're owed anything, or like you can judge whether they betrayed your trust or not.

Your bad ht and this research are two completely different things and are independent of each other.

[20goingon50]

in terms of crowd funding. Premier league footballers (soccer) look a great place to get some investors. Wayne Rooney is the obvious one. Ireland at Aston villa is also very self conscious of the fact he is bald.

Today two footballers from Celtic had hair transplants

http://talkingbaws.com/2014/05/16/celtic-strikers-anthony-stokes-leigh-griffiths-finally-get-a-hair-transplant/

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-teammates-anthony-stokes-leigh-3153516

[fuzzyballs]

in terms of crowd funding. Premier league footballers (soccer) look a great place to get some investors. Wayne Rooney is the obvious one. Ireland at Aston villa is also very self conscious of the fact he is bald.

Today two footballers from Celtic had hair transplants

http://talkingbaws.com/2014/05/16/celtic-strikers-anthony-stokes-leigh-griffiths-finally-get-a-hair-transplant/

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...-leigh-3153516

Or they just pay to get a HT done. But yeah for all we know guys like this are funding new ideas and research.

[nameless]

I don't understand the point to talk about crowdfunding just yet. At this point I would want more info from Cotseralis before donating to his cause and I would only be interested in donating toward the $2 million cause not the $20 million cause. The $20 million cause would take too long and there will already be other treatments on the market by the time his $20 million cause would bring a treatment into the marketplace. I firmly believe that effective cell therapy will be on the market within 8 years so why pay $20 million to have Cotseralis bring a wounding treatment into the marketplace in the same time frame?

None of the cell doctors are asking us for money donations so why would we crowdfund for them? It seems as though they are already getting investor funding so why would we crowdfund to get them funding? Is Lauster seeking funds? Is Jahoda seeking funds? Are any of them seeking funds besides Cotseralis?

[hellouser]

Or they just pay to get a HT done. But yeah for all we know guys like this are funding new ideas and research.

If a crowdfunding initiative were to take off, they'd be good to get in touch with.

[fuzzyballs]

Tss you're just very confused and angry because your ht went bad. I'm gonna shave my head like I have already done, and am here for the news only. So I want something real to be done.

You as yourself have not given researchers of hairloss a single dime of your own money so you shiuldnt act like you're owed anything, or like you can judge whether they betrayed your trust or not.

Your bad ht and this research are two completely different things and are independent of each other.

I regret my FUT transplants. But that's why I'm here in future treatments,as opposed to pipe dreams and fairy dust forum.

Dude I see a failed system, the same systems and processes are not getting us the results we want.

I think crowd funding is a great way of creating a pool of money. But just giving that money to a researcher that hasn't already been able to create something that you and I can use is not what I would spend my money on.

Surely you can see that something ain't right?

[hellouser]

I think crowd funding is a great way of creating a pool of money. But just giving that money to a researcher that hasn't already been able to create something that you and I can use is not what I would spend my money on.

Surely you can see that something ain't right?

So suggest a solution.

[gainspotter]

in terms of crowd funding. Premier league footballers (soccer) look a great place to get some investors. Wayne Rooney is the obvious one. Ireland at Aston villa is also very self conscious of the fact he is bald.

Today two footballers from Celtic had hair transplants

http://talkingbaws.com/2014/05/16/celtic-strikers-anthony-stokes-leigh-griffiths-finally-get-a-hair-transplant/

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...-leigh-3153516

Ireland's at stoke now, not villa

[fuzzyballs]

So suggest a solution.

I'd be most willing to put my money into Histogen.

I think equity crowd funding is interesting.

I'd even put money into funding accelerating Pilofocus and teaching it everywhere (if it turns out to be a good new standard in HT technology).

How does that sound to you bro?