Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[fred970]

Then what on earth were you complaining about in your earlier posts?

[garethbale]

The amount of women hating misogynistic posts on the bald truth is too damn high...

You guys do realize that you are saying women are shallow and superficial bitches, while simultaneously complaining you can't get a hot, well-off girlfriend/wife? If you can't see the Hypocrisy in that then the IQ level here is lower than I thought.

hahaha

I thought this too. I guess the irony is lost on people here

[tonypizza]

I have a hot girlfriend. Next..

[nameless]

The amount of women hating misogynistic posts on the bald truth is too damn high...

You guys do realize that you are saying women are shallow and superficial bitches, while simultaneously complaining you can't get a hot, well-off girlfriend/wife? If you can't see the Hypocrisy in that then the IQ level here is lower than I thought.

* Shallow and superficial mean the same thing so your point that we think women are shallow and superficial is redundant. I will use the word shallow in my response to you for the sake of economy and clarity.

* You lack wisdom and since you have this deficit your putting our statements into a construct of your own invention rather than how we ourselves intended for them to be construed.

* Most of us understand that people in general, and women specifically, are not the sum total of their negative parts. yes, we all have negative parts - me, you, all men, and all women. We all have negative parts. Everybody. But we also have positive parts. Are women shallow? Yes. And they have other negative traits too. But they also have some positive charming traits. On balance, we are better off with them in our lives than without them in our lives. Indeed, the men with women in their lives live longer and have healthier lives.

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/11/14/study-married-couples-live-longer-healthier-lives-than-singles/

* I don't recall any person here posting the words "Shallow and superficial bitches" in connection with women, except you. I do not think of women as "bitches" although I do believe that they have a propensity for making shallow decisions when it comes to the mating decisions they make about men. And by the way I've seen many scientific studies that support my belief. Here is one such study you might find noteworthy:

http://blog.timesunion.com/ontheedge/women-5-times-more-likely-to-go-for-men-with-hair/9687/

[nameless]

No, that's a big misconception. It takes only a few years to start losing hair, if that. Young boys that are genetically programmed to lose hair in their late teens and early twenties do so once they go through puberty. After puberty finishes, testosterone and DHT levels are no longer absent like they were as a boy. Hairloss then slowly begins. Are you trying to tell me that hairloss starts as a baby and finally takes the upper hand after twenty years or so? No, that's just incorrect.

Interesting.

But it's also true that puberty starts for different boys at different ages and ends at different ages. And even after hair loss starts it takes awhile for the damage to start damaging a person's looks. Dermatologists say that we are missing about 20% of our hair before we even notice. And as you age you produce less of the hormones that take your hair. You would not need to be retreated more than every 5 - 10 years even if the new hair was susceptible to androgen if they can turn the clock back on the new hair to the point where it was at before it started falling out.

[HairBane]

The amount of cringe beta self esteem issue riddled, bitter woman-hating laden posts in a thread about dermal papilla expansion in culture is... Unsurprising. Shall we get back on topic you numpties?

Does anyone know when the Chinese trials start.? And is anyone involved in the Chinese trials also involved in the hair conference?

[mmmcoffee]

All in favor of changing the thread title to "Final Years: ..."

[HairBane]

All in favor of changing the thread title to "Final Years: ..."

We've probably been searching for a cure since not long after our species existed though, and now we could be in the final year or two before its at least proven in theory that baldness can be cured. I'd say on a relative timescale we're justified in measuring it in days.

[Sogeking]

We've probably been searching for a cure since not long after our species existed though, and now we could be in the final year or two before its at least proven in theory that baldness can be cured. I'd say on a relative timescale we're justified in measuring it in days.

Hmm I won't be calling it final until we have something going to clinical trials and being announced as going to clinical trials. But seriously how can we find out the status about the Chinese and Taiwanese trials?

[ytterligare]

Unless someone visits that university or writes a letter to one of those scientists, there won't be any news until the congress in May.

[Arashi]

Unless someone visits that university or writes a letter to one of those scientists, there won't be any news until the congress in May.

And unless we have somebody present at the conference, we wont wont hear anything in May (nor in the months following May) neither.

[35YrsAfter]

Unless someone visits that university or writes a letter to one of those scientists, there won't be any news until the congress in May.

I doubt many researchers are allowed to disclose anything of importance to the public. For instance, I emailed a guy involved in research related to the African Spiny mouse that's being studied because it can regenerate skin and hair. He didn't even respond to my email. I have also wondered why Aderans closed shop when eight years ago they had a very encouraging video. The video left me with the impression they had already achieved success and were simply only working out minor details.

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[hellouser]

I doubt many researchers are allowed to disclose anything of importance to the public. For instance, I emailed a guy involved in research related to the African Spiny mouse that's being studied because it can regenerate skin and hair. He didn't even respond to my email. I have also wondered why Aderans closed shop when eight years ago they had a very encouraging video. The video left me with the impression they had already achieved success and were simply only working out minor details.

I emailed Dr. Lauster a while back as have many others and never heard anything back. It's likely they just don't feel like answering all of our relatively petty questions when they've got bigger tasks to take care of.

[sdsurfin]

news from gardner

Reply from Jahoda's team:



Sorry for the slow reply I’ve been away on holiday.



I’m not up to speed as to why the various other groups are using their techniques, hopefully will be able to get an update on their work at an upcoming conference. As to why they might use single cell populations, I guess just to identify key promoters in each population. Mixing cultured populations in a 3D model is something that I’m currently working on but currently not at the stage where we can assay inductiveness in vivo.

Maintaining the inductivity seems to go hand in hand with reducing the cells proliferation, when in a matrix/3D model the DP slow down their proliferation and this may have something to do with partially restoring their inductivity. Our current thinking is to rapidly expand the DP in culture then revert them to their inductive state. As to what will happen if we do get follicles successfully forming in vivo I’m not sure if they themselves will miniaturise over time, I think that’s a question for a later date.

Not sure on time courses for treatments, I can see things moving onwards but not sure what if any problems will arise over time.


Cheers,

Aaron Gardner

[nameless]

Reply from Jahoda's team:



Sorry for the slow reply I’ve been away on holiday.



I’m not up to speed as to why the various other groups are using their techniques, hopefully will be able to get an update on their work at an upcoming conference. As to why they might use single cell populations, I guess just to identify key promoters in each population. Mixing cultured populations in a 3D model is something that I’m currently working on but currently not at the stage where we can assay inductiveness in vivo.

Maintaining the inductivity seems to go hand in hand with reducing the cells proliferation, when in a matrix/3D model the DP slow down their proliferation and this may have something to do with partially restoring their inductivity. Our current thinking is to rapidly expand the DP in culture then revert them to their inductive state. As to what will happen if we do get follicles successfully forming in vivo I’m not sure if they themselves will miniaturise over time, I think that’s a question for a later date.

Not sure on time courses for treatments, I can see things moving onwards but not sure what if any problems will arise over time.


Cheers,

Aaron Gardner

Looks like Arishi was wrong about the Jahoda team. He was so sure that they have a major advance over their last presentation as he was so sure all the presenters have a major advance over Jahoda's previous presentation. Jahoda says rapid proliferation of cells causes loss of trichogenicity but Jahoda's strategy is now to utilize rapid proliferation of cells, resulting in the total loss of trichogenicity, and then trying to restore the trichogenicity.

the part about him trying to restore the trichogenicity after it's lost looks like Jahoda is going back to the drawing board because his previous paper involved protecting the trichogenicity that was already inherent in the cells.