Final Days: Chinese Scientists Have Solved the DP Culturing Problem! (2014)

[nameless]

they could do it right away and I guess they are. It would make sense to do that last experiment before moving onto the next step: clinical trials (although these guys in Taiwan are already starting that). The whole experiment would probably take about 2 months, so give them some time. I hope/expect to see such result before summer !

Arishi it seems that the Taiwanese group are not doing the culture as effectively as this new Chinese group. Could we possibly pass the Chinese info onto the Taiwanese group in the hopes that they might try the Chinese group's method?

[nameless]

I think both IronMan and Arashi are actually saying the same thing on the facts related to the experiments.

The only difference is, IM has this tone like there is some kind of scam, or lie, and these facts are not to be taken as positive news because they have not achieved the ultimate cure.

Arashi, more objectively in my opinion, puts the facts related to the experiments in the right perspective i.e. in their context. The experiments were designed to show partial steps for the achievement of a final cure. If those steps can be put together in a new experiments, we really are basically waiting for it to be done in clinical trials.

I still do not understand if the Taiwanese clinical trials will include a combination of the Tsuji and Chinese experiments, to combine creation of the follicle following Tsuji's method with DP cells that will be able to undergo that growth.

I agree with you. I think Arishi's analysis looks accurate. And I'm also interested in whether or not the Taiwanese are aware of the new information so they can use the new information to create better results. I also wonder if the Taiwanese group has seen the new study by Cotseralis which also looks like it may be helpful to produce quality cells. Here is Cotseralis's new study:

http://www.sciencecodex.com/converting_adult_human_cells_to_hairfolliclegenerating_stem_cells-126870

How can we get all of this info into the hands of the Taiwanese group? I don't know any staff-person's on the Taiwanese group so I don't think they'd pay much attention to any email I could send them with all of this new information.

We need someone who is in contact with the Taiwanese group to give all of this new information to the Taiwanese group.

[nameless]

By the summer? LOL, don't kid yourself, no health ministry will allow a cure to come to the public THAT fast even if it were found yesterday.

What about India?

[nameless]

What about Somalia, North Korea or Syria?

No thanks!

But I think that cell treatments are already legal in India so if a cellular cure was invented then I think Indian docs could start performing that treatment literally immediately.

[tonypizza]

Anyway, now almost 10 years later (after publication of the European paper, for example), I always find it amusing when some baldies get excited when some "scientists" on this planet create some hairs in a petri dish - or "a" wispy hair on a mouse's back.... and start "the final cure is near" trash.

To be fair, proof of concept is an important milestone in any research project. I agree though, waiting for the results from any of the researchers in this field to become scalable has become something of a comedy

[Kudu]

Good, the faster they come out with a commercial product, the faster we can fly our bald heads to china and dump some serious cash into their economy.

I'll stay longer and do some touring while im there too, so they'd kill two birds with one stone.

I agree. Seeing china and getting a cure at the same time would be really convenient, I was planning on going there this summer, but if things keep progressing, I may just wait a few years and go somewhere else

[karxxx]

total alopeci a bread donor

my bald head exactly zero donor.

Is it possible to clone my beard?

After transport to deal with?

Please provide your information

[sascha]

Man. I really wish this stuff is progressing as fast as my hair loss
But I´m convinced once the first steps are taken this will take off, maybe even sooner as we would think. just like a motiviated guy trying to lose some weight

[Dazza]

What about India?

No thanks. After the amount of crap Mr Nigam's can get away with over there I'd rather pass. Not just him tho most the doctors in the hairloss/weightloss field over there are out for one thing, Your money. They couldn't care less for your health. Nigam is living proof of this.

[nameless]

No thanks. After the amount of crap Mr Nigam's can get away with over there I'd rather pass. Not just him tho most the doctors in the hairloss/weightloss field over there are out for one thing, Your money. They couldn't care less for your health. Nigam is living proof of this.

Then wait 5 years (or longer) for it to come to come to market elsewhere.

Those may be your only choices. India is one of the few places where cell treatments are legal so if you're unwilling to get cellular treatment early in India then just hunker-in for the 5 year (or longer) wait to get the treatment elsewhere.

[35YrsAfter]

Then wait 5 years (or longer) for it to come to come to market elsewhere.

Those may be your only choices. India is one of the few places where cell treatments are legal so if you're unwilling to get cellular treatment early in India then just hunker-in for the 5 year (or longer) wait to get the treatment elsewhere.

Just because something is legal doesn't make it safe. One of the major roadblocks is safety. Cancer is a very real danger with some experimental treatments. Worst case scenario... The treatment doesn't work and you die of cancer in 7 years. I am optimistic this problem can be overcome, but until any treatment is proven safe, I would never volunteer as a test subject.

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[tonypizza]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

[cichlidfort]

ugh - can we stop with these yawn-worthy threads about 'miraculous findings of some Taiwan/Chinese research team' a million miles away?

The 'better treatment' we're all hoping for is half a century off, we're down to about 3 companies who are all in financial difficulty and ALL unable to show any solid proof their concepts grow ANY new hair whatsoever.

Its over - I'd check-out of this forum and perhaps return in erm... *looks at watch*.... 30 - 40 years maybe? Then we should be about 5 years off from a better treatment (not a cure).

You really are a cancer to this forum. You must love being bald. 50 years away? LOL....run along and go play somewhere else.

[35YrsAfter]

I wonder how many suicides occur each year as a result of hair loss and social withdrawal.

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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[hellouser]

Men are often very private regarding the demoralizing impact hair loss has on their lives. Being the victim of bad hair transplant surgery is worse than being bald.

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Being the victim of an ugly strip scar from FUT is also depressing.